Some Red State/Blue State Indicia

mqt said:
I think thethe gets overly scrutinized at times because he is the only one willing to revel in it. When others are called out, they either scatter or scold you. Thethe just openly says he’s on a mission from the MAGA Gods to spread the good word.
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Yes - America is the best nation ever and its citizens are the ones that should benefit.

Also - IQ is determinative of almost everything and the reality is white people not only have the highes of highs but our median IQ is incredible comparatively.
 
sturg33 said:
The simple reality is that 3rd world culture is different than western culture and if there is an opportunity to steal or scam or hurt others they will take advantage at a much higher rate.

Call it racist if you want. Iq matters as well as culture and values
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We have an entire health care industry where a network of people take my money in exchange for one doctor treating me. We sell water. Companies pay millions a year just asking the government to give them preferential treatment. Stealing, scamming and hurting others is alive and well in Western culture, we just legitimize it.
 
sturg33 said:
When 80% of Somalian immigrants in Minnesota are on welfare, I cannot think of a reason why citizens benefit from that immigration. Thats before all the fraud and theft

It is only a negative
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Wow. Maybe the people letting this happen should log in to our credit card account... we don't need more help blowing money
 
sturg33 said:
The simple reality is that 3rd world culture is different than western culture and if there is an opportunity to steal or scam or hurt others they will take advantage at a much higher rate.

Call it racist if you want. Iq matters as well as culture and values
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We have an entire health care industry where a network of people take my money in exchange for one doctor treating me. We sell water. Companies pay millions a year just asking the government to give them preferential treatment. Stealing, scamming and hurting others is alive and well in Western culture, we just legitimized much of it at some point. That’s what has happened here with this Somali crime network or whatever, it just wasn’t accepted in the same way.
 
thethe said:
Racist. Bigot.

Can you now see as you get older that lots of I values are silly?
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Aces is right that the program shouldn't exist. A competent governemnt doesnt create a system that is so easily abused

But also, to your point... CVS isn't locking up the tooth paste to prevent sturg33 from stealing
 
mqt said:
We have an entire health care industry where a network of people take my money in exchange for one doctor treating me. We sell water. Companies pay millions a year just asking the government to give them preferential treatment. Stealing, scamming and hurting others is alive and well in Western culture, we just legitimized much of it at some point. That’s what has happened here with this Somali crime network or whatever, it just wasn’t accepted in the same way.
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This is you bending over backwards to excuse this

1. The scale of this fraud is massive and frankly unprecedented

2. It's perpetuated by not citizens against us tax payers, which in mind makes it worse

3. Overseen by a governor who was either complicit or so incompetent that frankly either should result in good resignation and jail time. Instead you voted for him
To be vice president and he will be elected governor again. There are NEVER CONSEQUENCES

if you want to discuss other state run fraud I'm happy to, and I'll bet you won't find me arguing against severe punishment. But this is the topic today. Record breaking fraud by illegals in a leftist state and yall just seem to... not care
 
sturg33 said:
This is you bending over backwards to excuse this

1. The scale of this fraud is massive and frankly unprecedented

2. It's perpetuated by not citizens against us tax payers, which in mind makes it worse

3. Overseen by a governor who was either complicit or so incompetent that frankly either should result in good resignation and jail time. Instead you voted for him
To be vice president and he will be elected governor again. There are NEVER CONSEQUENCES

if you want to discuss other state run fraud I'm happy to, and I'll bet you won't find me arguing against severe punishment. But this is the topic today. Record breaking fraud by illegals in a leftist state and yall just seem to... not care
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I’m not excusing a single goddamn thing. What I’m saying is that this whole “incompatible with Western culture” bullshit is just that: bullshit. Arrest everyone involved, deport them if they are immigrants, do all the things. But pretending that Western culture is not compatible with vultures who take from the taxpayer at every possible turn is just a misreading of the culture.
 
sturg33 said:
Aces is right that the program shouldn't exist. A competent governemnt doesnt create a system that is so easily abused

But also, to your point... CVS isn't locking up the tooth paste to prevent sturg33 from stealing
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The programs functioned as intended for the most part for needy Americans. The programs are fine and even more so under non democratic leadership.

It’s missing the root cause issue here. And it’s one blinded by spiritually a leftist ideooogy.
 
thethe said:
The programs functioned as intended for the most part for needy Americans. The programs are fine and even more so under non democratic leadership.

It’s missing the root cause issue here. And it’s one blinded by spiritually a leftist ideooogy.
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If you’re so deep down the well of anti-immigrant sentiment that you’re going to defend how the Medicaid program is currently functioning in this country, you might actually deserve Aces ire. I’m very pro Medicaid and in favor of its expansion to cover everybody. But we can’t do that if it doesn’t function better and have better guardrails for dramatic over-billing.
 
mqt said:
If you’re so deep down the well of anti-immigrant sentiment that you’re going to defend how the Medicaid program is currently functioning in this country, you might actually deserve Aces ire. I’m very pro Medicaid and in favor of its expansion to cover everybody. But we can’t do that if it doesn’t function better and have better guardrails for dramatic over-billing.
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He’s deserving of much more ire. I’m being nice because it’s Christmas
 
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mqt said:
I’m not excusing a single goddamn thing. What I’m saying is that this whole “incompatible with Western culture” bullshit is just that: bullshit. Arrest everyone involved, deport them if they are immigrants, do all the things. But pretending that Western culture is not compatible with vultures who take from the taxpayer at every possible turn is just a misreading of the culture.
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What i observe from you is that a public scandal of this magnitude does not draw your attention until half the board insists, but when somoen calls Rachel Devine a dude you cant type fast enough about your anger

Its just crazy priorities
 
sturg33 said:
What i observe from you is that a public scandal of this magnitude does not draw your attention until half the board insists, but when somoen calls Rachel Devine a dude you cant type fast enough about your anger

Its just crazy priorities
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I share topics not otherwise being discussed here, and sometimes I don’t have much more to add to the ongoing discussion than fraud is bad.
 
sturg33 said:
yes - the standard "this obvious horrible thing is bad and im against it... anyhow, I'm voting D"
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For the millionth time, there’s not some magical alternative. I can vote for the party of Somali Medicaid fraud, vote for the party of Trump’s crypto scams or throw away my vote. Cool fucking choices.
 
mqt said:
For the millionth time, there’s not some magical alternative. I can vote for the party of Somali Medicaid fraud, vote for the party of Trump’s crypto scams or throw away my vote. Cool fucking choices.
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The party doesnt need to improve because they know they can rely on you no matter what
 
sturg33 said:
The party doesnt need to improve because they know they can rely on you no matter what
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As someone who at various points has been a Republican, independent and Democrat, I agree that no one should give their allegiance reflexively to any part.

As someone who supports a social safety net I believe that cases of fraud should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and that those cases should be examined carefully so we can find we to reduce fraud.
 
nsacpi said:
As someone who at various points has been a Republican, independent and Democrat, I agree that no one should give their allegiance reflexively to any part.

As someone who supports a social safety net I believe that cases of fraud should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and that those cases should be examined carefully so we can find we to reduce fraud.
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I've been reliably told that the system is fine
 
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