jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
I will personally contract and transmit CoViD to Snit if he does that.
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I will personally contract and transmit CoViD to Snit if he does that.
The problem here is that you just can't use an Opener 3 of 5 days - you just don't have enough Pitchers on the roster to do that.
Southcack77
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Inciarte is still within his original control.
I don't think it ever makes sense to extend mediocre players past the point where they figure to be in decline.
If Inciarte were a free agent this offseason and the Braves wanted to bring him back, I'm pretty sure they could do it for less than 10m.
Just as it wouldn't have cost them 12m to bring back Teheran.
For 2020 it isn't looking great with Soroka gone. But this season could get cancelled next week for all we know. There isn't much of an incentive to trade away valuable players when we still stand to have a great team in 2021.
We are not rebuilding/retooling anytime soon, so stop with that nonsense. Our best players are under 30 sans Freeman, and most of them are under control for several years. If we can't retain him after 2021, then so be it. But he stands to make a huge impact on a 2021 club that should be serious contenders. Hopefully, Bryce Ball is the real deal and can take over in 2022 if Freddie leaves. If not, we have 20+ million available to upgrade the team in other areas.
Horsehide Harry
<B>Mr. Free Trade</B>
I guess people read what they want to read. I never said that they should go into immediate rebuild mode. I said they should consider a bridge rebuild as a real alternative. Who knows, Touki and Wright may suddenly become good enough to replace Soroka and good Folty, Newcomb may suddenly become serviceable Hamels, Hamels might return and be useful, Folty may start eating meat again, get his head on straight and find his stuff. The odds are that some of that may happen. The overwhelming odds are that not enough of that will happen.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
What are we talking about here. I think I should read some of these long posts. Are we trading FF again.
It's the only way to contend 2 years from now
Use whatever lingo you want, trading Freeman makes zero sense (realistically anyways). I mean sure if the Angels want to trade us Jo Adell for 1.2 years Freeman, you take it. But that sort of a trade isn't realistic.
Trading spare parts like Duval, Greene, etc. is fine, but you aren't getting anyone of worth for those guys. You really can't even get a young lottery ticket type of prospect since you can only trade guys currently on the 60 man roster. It's probably a better idea to keep those guys since they have a bit of value to our club.
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Opener every day is fine, but only if your "bulk" guy then goes 3-4 innings.
What the Braves are starting to become is a team that tag teams the bulk portion of the game with 2 guys combining for 5-6 IP. Pairing Touki/Matzek or Newk/Tomlin, and allowing each to face 9-12 batters is the exact type of creative usage of good-not-great SPs I was hoping to see from this team. It remains to be seen how sustainable that is.
The Brewers gave the Dodgers all they could handle in the NLCS with a rotation that was also very poor. They did it (and continue to do it) by creatively deploying an extremely deep BP and limiting the exposure of mediocre SPs to 1-2 times through the order.
There is no reason the Braves can't do something similar. Their collection of good-not-great arms is perfectly suited for such a strategy, and I've been advocating it for years now. We will see if it's sustainable.
Get through the 60 games at .500 or better, and hope to get lucky in the playoffs with Acuna posting a 1.200 OPS for a few weeks to win games by himself. Don't do anything crazy that jeopardizes 2021+. That should be the plan for 2020.
If anything this is the type of season that can work. 48 games to go
Josh Tomlin and Bryce Wilson can be key cogs to making this work.
Horsehide Harry
<B>Mr. Free Trade</B>
I don't disagree.
I do think that IF the season falls apart you need a strategy. From an opposite POV, trading for pitching in this season is a non-starter for me.
Southcack77
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This makes sense to me.
I'd still be looking for rotation pieces for this year and beyond, but I would not feel any urgency about it. Only make a deal at a good price.
The Golden Wrens won't allow this season to fall apart
Southcack77
Well-known member
If rosters are going to stay at 28, that's another boost to the strategy.
I stated it wrong - I meant that it's almost impossible to imagine that Snitker's capable of implementing such a strategy and sticking to "the plan" and taking guys out no matter how good someone looks on a particular day rather than trying to stretch an extra inning or two out of them. The way he's handled the lineup platoons has been pleasantly shocking so far - expecting him to handle the pitching staff "by the numbers" too may be asking a little much.
Like all old-school guys (myself included), it's tough for him to make that final adjustment and look at things from the perspective of "get me as many outs as you possibly can through 18 hitters" rather than "he's only giving me 3-4 innings".
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Southcack77
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If I'm Alex my strategy would be to try and acquire a second rotation piece that could go 5-7 innings a start, and try and piggy back the back three spots.
But in looking for that second rotation piece, I would not overpay for expiring contract guys.
I'd consider paying a premium for a guy with remaining control, but I wouldn't let myself get robbed.
But in looking for that second rotation piece, I would not overpay for expiring contract guys.
I'd consider paying a premium for a guy with remaining control, but I wouldn't let myself get robbed.