Spring Training 2015

MadduxFanII said:
Sure, there's the potential trade return to consider. But I'd argue that these sorts of "sign a guy for the sole purpose of dealing him to a contender at the deadline" signings fail far, far more often than they succeed. It's a low-risk move, so it's nothing to stress over, but it's rare for these sorts of guys to really play well enough to merit any sort of meaningful return.

It's conceivable that Gomes might smack around lefties for a few months and garner interest at the deadline. It's happened before. Realistically, however, it's exceptionally unlikely for a contending team to give up much of value for the short half of a corner outfield platoon, especially when the guy doesn't offer much defensively or on the bases. In the very, very best case scenario you probably get a guy who wasn't as good a prospect as Perez or Terdoslavich were in their minor league days.

Young...honestly, I don't think there's any realistic shot of converting him into something valuable. I agree he has his uses as the 24th or 25th guy on a playoff team, but those sorts are freely available talents, and most organizations have a player or two in the upper minors who can play multiple positions and run the bases. The best you can hope for in an EY trade is a PTBNL or cash considerations.
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I think that's the heart of it.
 
CrimsonCowboy said:
MASN has done a horrible job telling us who's playing for the Braves the last couple innings.
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What do you expect? They blew the Nats the entire time. They must have shown 30 clips of them clinching the East in ATL and celebrating. One of them said Harper was primed for an MVP run. I dunno whos worse, then or FP Santangiblow
 
jsebe10 said:
What do you expect? They blew the Nats the entire time. They must have shown 30 clips of them clinching the East in ATL and celebrating. One of them said Harper was primed for an MVP run. I dunno whos worse, then or FP Santangiblow
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I'm just gonna go ahead and say FP, since it's hard to imagine being worse than him.
 
jsebe10 said:
What do you expect? They blew the Nats the entire time. They must have shown 30 clips of them clinching the East in ATL and celebrating. One of them said Harper was primed for an MVP run. I dunno whos worse, then or FP Santangiblow
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Probably Ray Knight
 
Who's worse? The Nats announcers, or the White Sox announcers?

The Nats announcers have major chips on their shoulders. Whoever their main guy is sucks.
 
MadduxFanII said:
Sure, there's the potential trade return to consider. But I'd argue that these sorts of "sign a guy for the sole purpose of dealing him to a contender at the deadline" signings fail far, far more often than they succeed. It's a low-risk move, so it's nothing to stress over, but it's rare for these sorts of guys to really play well enough to merit any sort of meaningful return.

It's conceivable that Gomes might smack around lefties for a few months and garner interest at the deadline. It's happened before. Realistically, however, it's exceptionally unlikely for a contending team to give up much of value for the short half of a corner outfield platoon, especially when the guy doesn't offer much defensively or on the bases. In the very, very best case scenario you probably get a guy who wasn't as good a prospect as Perez or Terdoslavich were in their minor league days.

Young...honestly, I don't think there's any realistic shot of converting him into something valuable. I agree he has his uses as the 24th or 25th guy on a playoff team, but those sorts are freely available talents, and most organizations have a player or two in the upper minors who can play multiple positions and run the bases. The best you can hope for in an EY trade is a PTBNL or cash considerations.
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I haven't disagreed with any of this. The point I made is that we MIGHT get a little something for one or both of them if someone has an early injury. The one thing Terdoslavich has proven is that he doesn't appear to be much of a threat off the bench and that he needs consistent ABs to provide any production. We've already committed money to Gomes, and it looks more and more like we're going to take a bath on the money promised to Callaspo unless we carry two backup IFs who can't play SS.

I like Joey as much as the next guy I guess, but he's not good enough to be a starting OF at this level. Can he hit? Sure, when he gets regular playing time. However, he can't provide power, can't steal a base, and is likely a defensive liability anywhere other than LF or 1B (where he won't get ABs).

I'm pretty sure it's fair to assume that Smith is going to be sent down no matter what - no sense in starting his clock unless you're going to make him the everyday CF and have him lead off. That leaves you Perez and Cunningham as guys capable of handling CF defensively until Melvin returns. Assuming you cut EY, you pretty much have to carry both of those guys, so you're now looking at Markakis, Perez, Cunningham, Gomes, Almonte, and potentially KJ - all of whom offer things that Terdo can't (power, positional flexibility, ability to play CF, whatever).

It becomes even more complicated if we sign Olivera - he'll be the 2B until they can unload or release Johnson, meaning you've removed another potential leadoff option when you send Peterson down, and you more or less have no choice but to keep EY and Perez.

The return I personally would be asking for in ANY Gomes/EY/Callaspo deal would be international bonus slots anyway. There's a much better chance Hart & Company could turn that into a better prospect return we'd get for any of those guys, and we really don't need any more 4th/5th OFs or utility IFs than we've already got.
 
Braves1976 said:
I certainly hope dak is wrong about Thomas as I like him. And I wouldn't DFA Reyes either at this point. But I don't see him in our long-term plans so unless traded I could see him DFA'd eventually.
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It kind of feels like the Braves were sending a message to Thomas and Reyes with these early cuts. 40-man players are typically the ones you want to get a longer look at for consideration now and into the future. Instead, they are gone after 5 days of Grapefruit League play and guys like Feigl, Veal, Castro, and Ciriaco are still around to get playing time.

Now that they're written-off for the foreseeable future, I think they'd be smart to DFA both of them and try to get them through waivers in order to outright them to AAA.
 
Just watched the first few innings of today's game. Wandy looked solid. He definitely hung a few pitches that the Nats just missed, but his command was fairly good. Its a shame there was no radar gun, but Wandy is a guy who has pitched effectively in the past with high 80s / low 90s stuff. He's got a hell of a curveball, and that type of out-pitch probably makes him a better pitcher than Stults if healthy.
 
dak said:
Just watched the first few innings of today's game. Wandy looked solid. He definitely hung a few pitches that the Nats just missed, but his command was fairly good. Its a shame there was no radar gun, but Wandy is a guy who has pitched effectively in the past with high 80s / low 90s stuff. He's got a hell of a curveball, and that type of out-pitch probably makes him a better pitcher than Stults if healthy.
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I agree, Wandy is better than Stults if healthy. Of course both could make the team depending on Minor's situation.
 
dak said:
Just watched the first few innings of today's game. Wandy looked solid. He definitely hung a few pitches that the Nats just missed, but his command was fairly good. Its a shame there was no radar gun, but Wandy is a guy who has pitched effectively in the past with high 80s / low 90s stuff. He's got a hell of a curveball, and that type of out-pitch probably makes him a better pitcher than Stults if healthy.
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I think that if Wandy is healthy, he can get the job done. I figure it'll be he and Stults, but I think one of those spots is Wandy's to lose.
 
I maybe just missed it or just don't remember, but what does Stults make money wise if he makes the team? I remember the details on Wandy and that Stults has opt-out date of 3 April. But I cannot recall what he'll make money wise if he makes the team.
 
TomahawkCult said:
Absolutely.

The White Sox crew, to me, let you in on their being over the top: it's all for a laugh in the end. The Nats bunch seem earnest in their snot nosed sense of entitlement.
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Yeah, this. Harrelson is like a Vegas act or an old rock band—not that great in its prime, and a little ridiculous in its dotage, but with a wink in the delivery. The Nats crew is just a giant, un-selfaware **** sandwich.
 
Bob Carpenter is the main guy for the Gnats on MASN. He was pretty good years ago when he did SEC Football. But the times I've heard him do Gnats games, he's been hard to listen to.
 
CrimsonCowboy said:
Bob Carpenter is the main guy for the Gnats on MASN. He was pretty good years ago when he did SEC Football. But the times I've heard him do Gnats games, he's been hard to listen to.
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He is beyond terrible. I get that the NATS pay the checks and that's fine that they are unabashed homers. Some would say our guys are too. But the one thing our guys won't do is belittle and put down the opponent. You should have had to listen to them when Sutton was up there for those two years. I felt sorry for him, between having to deal with Carp, plus it was obvious his heart was still in ATL.
 
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