Steven A Smith sees the light

Make more money? You have to make some money before you make more of it.

Amazon isn't churning a consistent gross profit because of investment. It makes a ton of money and if they only cared about profits they'd stop expanding and make money. You can look at it otherways, but that's the crux of why they don't "make money"
 
Amazon isn't churning a consistent gross profit because of investment. It makes a ton of money and if they only cared about profits they'd stop expanding and make money. You can look at it otherways, but that's the crux of why they don't "make money"

Zito... This is wrong. You aren't even fact checking the **** you are throwing at the wall.

Amazon had an operating income of -241 million last year. This has nothing to do with "investments" (which is among the vaguest of uses of that term). It means that their day to day operations of their businesses lose money which is what krg and sturg were referring to. So no, that's not the crux of why they aren't "making money".
 
Zito... This is wrong. You aren't even fact checking the **** you are throwing at the wall.

Amazon had an operating income of -241 million last year. This has nothing to do with "investments" (which is among the vaguest of uses of that term). It means that their day to day operations of their businesses lose money which is what krg and sturg were referring to. So no, that's not the crux of why they aren't "making money".

False

http://ben-evans.com/benedictevans/2014/9/4/why-amazon-has-no-profits-and-why-it-works
 
No. They reported a operating income loss of 241 million which means they lost money through their operations and not through their investments. That article just points out why their strategy works. I never disagreed with Amazon's strategy.

But their operation costs are going up because of them expanding their business, it's spelled out pretty clearly IMO.
 
But their operation costs are going up because of them expanding their business, it's spelled out pretty clearly IMO.

They are indeed adding other unprofitable divisions under their corporate umbrella, but you corrected sturg and krg as if what they said was wrong when it clearly wasn't. In the finance world there is quite a difference between gross profit and operating income.
 
People sure seemed to love the Bush tax cuts and education credits.

Also, anyone above the poverty level shouldn't require entitlements.

well, i don't think the population is that smart overall

of course there are people above the poverty level that need "entitlements". to say otherwise isn't being truthful about the situation imo
 
2015 POVERTY GUIDELINES FOR THE 48 CONTIGUOUS STATES
AND THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
Persons in family/household Poverty guideline

For families/households with more than 8 persons, add $4,160 for each additional person.

1(person) $11,770
2 15,930
3 20,090
4 24,250
5 28,410
6 32,570
7 36,730
8 40,890

So someone who makes $12,000 shouldn't require government assistance?
 
But their operation costs are going up because of them expanding their business, it's spelled out pretty clearly IMO.

Amazon is continuing to invest because they are trying to find profit centers that subsidize their core business. Their core business is a huge money pit.
 
Well since you acknowledged its not black and white, then I hope you understand that the answer to your question isn't as obvious as you made it seem.

The only thing I acknowledged was that we don't live in a perfect society. You're the one stating that it may not be manageable even in a perfect society.
 
The only thing I acknowledged was that we don't live in a perfect society. You're the one stating that it may not be manageable even in a perfect society.

I said in a perfect society "it depends". Some people need government assistance and others don't.

When I went to college I made less than 12,000 a year and I was on a scholarship. I didn't need government assistance. In other circumstances people have the capability to earn enough to live without government need, but the welfare system creates an incentive where they would be irrational to choose to work because they are better off not working. Everyone (at least economically literate everyone's) understand that people in a society choosing not to work isn't optimal.

I also acknowledge that there is a great need for welfare for some people that make a lot more than $12,000. But Welfare transfers is a complicated issue that doesn't deserve to be marginalized by sarcastic questions such as the one you posed above.
 
I guess the better introductory question is: What job pays a full-time employee $12,000 a year?

That's about $6/hr (12,480 to be exact) assuming the employer pays for a 2 week vacation or as Vol would call it (the Tribulation period). The current minimum wage (if memory serves) would be either $15,000/year or $15,600/year depending on that paid vacation thing.
 
Even on other boards some people told me that I should know my role and shut up and do what other blacks do regardless and vote Democrat.

WTF?

I thought in Murica we vote for who we want and how we want things, you know the freedom of choosing who our leaders are not because of the color of skin.

One said that I was "jaded" because I am black and should know better.

I guess he didn't like the fact that I said what has Obama done for blacks to make our lives better. He deflected and then carried the conversation on another tangent.

If Democraps want my vote, then quit lying, quit deflecting, do something to earn that vote and not talk about. At leats Republicans will attempt to help you, if you help yourselves and won't lie to you to get your vote. Remember that.
 
Even on other boards some people told me that I should know my role and shut up and do what other blacks do regardless and vote Democrat.

WTF?

I thought in Murica we vote for who we want and how we want things, you know the freedom of choosing who our leaders are not because of the color of skin.

One said that I was "jaded" because I am black and should know better.

I guess he didn't like the fact that I said what has Obama done for blacks to make our lives better. He deflected and then carried the conversation on another tangent.

If Democraps want my vote, then quit lying, quit deflecting, do something to earn that vote and not talk about. At leats Republicans will attempt to help you, if you help yourselves and won't lie to you to get your vote. Remember that.

Really? How do Republicans help you? I'm not arguing about what you said about the Dems, but the Repubs will only help you as long as they can use you, no different than the Dems really. When was the last time the Repubs had a black person fail to "do his part" that they didn't turn on him? Michale Steele? Colin Powell? The only color either party is all that interested in is green.
 
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