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No because the US is targetting those that inflict pain and suffering on the world. Terrorists directly target innocents. I'm sorry we don't see it the same way.

US is targeting those who they can get away with killing in the scheme to increase global spending. THey backed ISIS, until it wasn't cool to.
 
wow @ AA. You need to do a little homework, then we can discuss things

what I have seen, less than 10,000 by weapons, but let your Muslim loving numbers be the right one......NOT.

You are trying to prove a political point, I am not. I have no affiliation with any party but outside of atomic weapons, you can't kill that many women and children.

They are used as shields, PERIOD, it is their MO, always have been to use as a political weapon.
 
what I have seen, less than 10,000 by weapons, but let your Muslim loving numbers be the right one......NOT.

You are trying to prove a political point, I am not. I have no affiliation with any party but outside of atomic weapons, you can't kill that many women and children.

They are used as shields, PERIOD, it is their MO, always have been to use as a political weapon.

Show me where you're getting your numbers... Everywhere I look has the body counts over 100,000 in Iraq.

Also - I didn't say women and children. I said civilians.
 
i am curious what religion Bedell and those that agree with him is being pushed into our gov't?

that somehow it is implied i am a follower of
 
Show me where you're getting your numbers... Everywhere I look has the body counts over 100,000 in Iraq.

Also - I didn't say women and children. I said civilians.

I said women and children. Way to move the goal posts. Of course we are targeting militants, they are just pussy-asses and using women and children as shields.

It's okay in your eyes that those Muslims use them as shields but disrespect the same women and children like no other on this planet.
 
A bleeding heart Liberal.

Not credible enough. Sorry.

How is it not credible enough? It links to various stories. Did you read the one written in the New Yorker? Not to mention it's been done by the US in the past. The US strategy is the enemy of my enemy is my friend. We did it with the mujahideen to fight the soviets and that's known fact, why would we have magically changed our stance on it? It's an effective way of creating chaos which is bad for our enemies (in this case Iran, Syria, Libya, etc.)
 
How is it not credible enough? It links to various stories. Did you read the one written in the New Yorker? Not to mention it's been done by the US in the past. The US strategy is the enemy of my enemy is my friend. We did it with the mujahideen to fight the soviets and that's known fact, why would we have magically changed our stance on it? It's an effective way of creating chaos which is bad for our enemies (in this case Iran, Syria, Libya, etc.)

Muslim lovers nauseates me.

Tell that to the women they treat like schit and the children they rape. They would thank you for it.
 
Muslim lovers nauseates me.

Tell that to the women they treat like schit and the children they rape. They would thank you for it.

In the US women weren't allowed to vote until what the 19 teens? They were considered property for ages. You act like we're so long gone from our heinous treatment of women adn you'd sweep aside our current bad treatment as well. Hell we still have people who criticize women for enjoying sex. We're hardly a model society for women's rights. I'm not condoning what they're doing, but I am saying you need perspective.
 
In the US women weren't allowed to vote until what the 19 teens? They were considered property for ages. You act like we're so long gone from our heinous treatment of women adn you'd sweep aside our current bad treatment as well. Hell we still have people who criticize women for enjoying sex. We're hardly a model society for women's rights. I'm not condoning what they're doing, but I am saying you need perspective.

Wow. So since we didn't let women vote its the same as raping them, mutilating them, and treating them like dog **** like the Muslims do today

Amazing

No comparison at all about how we treated women and how they treat women
 
Wow. So since we didn't let women vote its the same as raping them, mutilating them, and treating them like dog **** like the Muslims do today

Amazing

No comparison at all about how we treated women and how they treat women

Are you being serious right now? Whatever, no point even attempting to reason with you if you won't use common sense.
 
Yeah, I've seen Zito try and make the argument that Islam is evolving in its belief systems in two threads now.

It's not. And it won't.

What makes you believe that it will?

I don't see the point in mirror-gazing here.
 
I said women and children. Way to move the goal posts. Of course we are targeting militants, they are just pussy-asses and using women and children as shields.

It's okay in your eyes that those Muslims use them as shields but disrespect the same women and children like no other on this planet.

Dude - you're either trolling to be annoying, or are really freakin stupid.

My original statement was:

Then how do you explain the hundreds of thousands of documented innocent civilian deaths? Or is it OK, because we weren't trying to kill them?

How did I move the goal posts? You asked me for links, I gave them.

I'm waiting on some documentation for any of your statements.
 
You said right after stating your stats, WOMEN and CHILDREN. You always bring up WOMEN and CHILDREN. You are trying to put that in context we killed hundreds of thousands of women and children to prove a point. Take out your argument of women and children and I would AGREE with you. Combatants used them as shields. We do not purposely go after women and children. They are just a byproduct of their stupid and inhuman religion.
 
Yeah, I've seen Zito try and make the argument that Islam is evolving in its belief systems in two threads now.

It's not. And it won't.

What makes you believe that it will?

I don't see the point in mirror-gazing here.

It will or it will die. And it will undergo a more rapid progression as the world around it is much more progressive than the world around 1400s Christianity. Evolution, it's the law.
 
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