The 2020 Draft Thread
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bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
Is there really an early and later in this draft?
CyYoung31
Shift Leader
It’s fine as long as he doesn’t showboat and disrespect the game.
Tapate50
Well-known member
or have very few multi hit games
Oklahomabrave
Anytime Now Frankie...
Here’s a a clip with each of Bryces pitches with spin data https://twitter.com/brycejarvis28/status/1264980512189427714?s=21
He seemed really boring to me at first, but if the velo jump is real, he could be a good value that we get because he didn't have a full season to showcase the newfound stuff. Definitely a risk though.
Worth noting that Jarvis is already 22 and turns 23 in December, so he's older than I would've guessed.
Fangraphs on Jarvis: "In 2019, he was 88-92 with an average breaker, above changeup, some feel. Velo climbed into 93-94 area without sacrificing plus command. Chance for plus changeup and breaking ball that plays above raw grade because of how well it's located."
Pipeline on Jarvis: "A year ago, Jarvis was a strike-thrower with a good changeup and big league pedigree (son of former pitcher Kevin), who could have gone toward the end of the top 10 rounds if he were signable as a sophomore-eligible. He wasn't and turned down the Yankees as a 37th-rounder, then opened eyes with a much stronger body and stuff in the fall. Scouts wanted to see if he could maintain them over a full college season and never got the chance to find out, but he did throw one perfect game and flirt with another in his four starts -- which may be enough for him to join Marcus Stroman as the only first-round picks ever out of Duke.
After working with an 88-93 mph fastball at the beginning of 2019 and dipping to 86-91 by season's end, Jarvis added 20 pounds to his 6-foot-2 frame and operated at 92-96 with effective downhill plane last fall and this spring. His breaking ball used to be average at best, and now he flashes a plus curveball in the upper 70s that he can manipulate into a distinct and equally effective slider in the mid-80s. His fading changeup remains his best secondary offering, grading as well above average at its best.
Jarvis has improved his control along with his stuff, posting a 40-2 K-BB ratio in 27 innings while showing the ability to move his pitches around the strike zone. He repeats his delivery well and long has drawn praise for his competitiveness. Though he's already 22, has a narrow frame and lacks a long track record of displaying first-round stuff, he couldn't have been much more spectacular this spring."
Fangraphs on Jarvis: "In 2019, he was 88-92 with an average breaker, above changeup, some feel. Velo climbed into 93-94 area without sacrificing plus command. Chance for plus changeup and breaking ball that plays above raw grade because of how well it's located."
Pipeline on Jarvis: "A year ago, Jarvis was a strike-thrower with a good changeup and big league pedigree (son of former pitcher Kevin), who could have gone toward the end of the top 10 rounds if he were signable as a sophomore-eligible. He wasn't and turned down the Yankees as a 37th-rounder, then opened eyes with a much stronger body and stuff in the fall. Scouts wanted to see if he could maintain them over a full college season and never got the chance to find out, but he did throw one perfect game and flirt with another in his four starts -- which may be enough for him to join Marcus Stroman as the only first-round picks ever out of Duke.
After working with an 88-93 mph fastball at the beginning of 2019 and dipping to 86-91 by season's end, Jarvis added 20 pounds to his 6-foot-2 frame and operated at 92-96 with effective downhill plane last fall and this spring. His breaking ball used to be average at best, and now he flashes a plus curveball in the upper 70s that he can manipulate into a distinct and equally effective slider in the mid-80s. His fading changeup remains his best secondary offering, grading as well above average at its best.
Jarvis has improved his control along with his stuff, posting a 40-2 K-BB ratio in 27 innings while showing the ability to move his pitches around the strike zone. He repeats his delivery well and long has drawn praise for his competitiveness. Though he's already 22, has a narrow frame and lacks a long track record of displaying first-round stuff, he couldn't have been much more spectacular this spring."
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Yeah, exactly. College for the first 2 picks and high school for the last 2? Doesn’t really strike me as an early/late thing.
MadduxFanII
Swallowed by Mark Bowman
"Unimpressive, fringe-y talent for most of his life, before one great but abbreviated stretch the spring before the draft" is not terribly enticing to me.
Fangraphs mock has zero specific info for us other than us taking Ohio State catcher Dillon Dinger: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2020-mock-draft-mach-one/.
Southcack77
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bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
Pretty clear they are drafting on five star name and nothing else. We should embrace this philosophy
Tapate50
Well-known member
AGREED. This guy should be in the conversation to go 1:1 if it weren't for the pitcher named ASA.
New Baseball America mock but I'm not a subscriber so I don't know: https://www.baseballamerica.com/rankings/mlb-mock-draft/
Oklahomabrave
Anytime Now Frankie...
Not a fan of that pick, I’d prefer any of the other three you listed
if he's the best player on their board, i'm good with it.
Depends on the information they have on him. Doesn't seem particularly sexy, but when you go back and read Pipeline's blurb on Dingler, they mention that area scouts have dropped Sean Murphy comps on him - pretty good if that worked out.
Having three highly-rated soon-to-be-ready Catcher prospects wouldn't be a bad thing IMO. Frees AA up to include one of them in a monster deal without hurting our depth.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
IslandBrave
Mashin' to Mississippi
Law has ATL taking Jarvis in his 2nd Mock Draft. Also says he’s heard Braves Are likely to be HS heavy in the draft.