The Amount of Talent the Braves Have Traded is Staggering
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yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
Teams just don't trade guys like Schwarber, Correa, and Seager. Factor in that we traded two guys who were going to be FAs after this season, and it's not a huge surprise. No one would give us a top hitting prospect for either of them. Alex Wood wouldn't even get us that kind of guy, or even a guy like Soler.
sturg33
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I think that's debatable. I think Hart fell in love with the guy and Friedman took advantage
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
I do think this is true to a point. Probably not as much as you think, but at the very least I think Hart wanted Olivera and didn't test the waters with Wood once Friedman brought him up. It was always about Olivera.
Tapate50
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Unfortunately - right now- none of those acquired prospects has the look and feel of a superstar. We have gathered a ton of B+ talent and that's a great thing to build a comprehensively solid roster, but we are going to need something above solid at a few positions and catcher and ss look to hold few answers with the bats so we are going to need above average somewhere else other than 1B.
If we hadn't gotten Olivera who I think will be an above average bat, I'd have moved Alex Wood and Peraza for Longoria but I doubt Tampa would have bitten.
If we hadn't gotten Olivera who I think will be an above average bat, I'd have moved Alex Wood and Peraza for Longoria but I doubt Tampa would have bitten.
Tapate50
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Pretty much my thoughts as amended. The salary commitment is a huge part of why they made that move.
Russ2dollas
10 yr, $185 million Extension
A lot of young, too end talent gone. I don't see young top end talent back.
In a lot of ways we are older. And guys who are top end talents are either folty or injured.
I think the problem with the first post is that it ignores the heyward and upton were 1 year guys with expected extension pricing out at least 2/3 of baseball .
Wood deal is underwhelming big time for me. Maybe woods value isn't what I think it is.
In a lot of ways we are older. And guys who are top end talents are either folty or injured.
I think the problem with the first post is that it ignores the heyward and upton were 1 year guys with expected extension pricing out at least 2/3 of baseball .
Wood deal is underwhelming big time for me. Maybe woods value isn't what I think it is.
Sure, but none of the guys we traded are superstars, either. Heyward is the closest one, but he has yet to get to that level.
In terms of WAR, the 5 major league pieces we traded have combined for about 9 WAR this year...puts it into a different perspective. On the other hand, just the major league pieces we got back in those trades have combined for about 4.5 WAR this year.
Given the fact that the best talent we gave up was gone in a year, Gattis didn't really have a clear position, and a vast majority of the talent hasn't played in the majors yet, that puts a different spin on the trades for sure.
And you can't fully compare what we did to what the Marlins did. They traded all their talent and got pretty much solely very low minors prospects in return. To do what they did, we would have also traded Freeman, Simmons, and Teheran, and we wouldn't have gotten Shelby Miller in return.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
Justin is in an insanely long, insanely unproductive slump right now.
June: .196, 2 HRs (5 XBH), .608 OPS
July: .162, 4 HRs, no 2Bs (4 XBH), .551 OPS
August: .182, 0 HR (1XBH), .440 OPS
these cold streaks are a killer. it's one thing to be up-and-down, and it's another to be the worst hitter in the league for weeks at a time, and in this case, months. he struck out 4 times the other night in 12 pitches.
he could get insanely hot again, as we've all seen him do. but these streaks are just killer.
June: .196, 2 HRs (5 XBH), .608 OPS
July: .162, 4 HRs, no 2Bs (4 XBH), .551 OPS
August: .182, 0 HR (1XBH), .440 OPS
these cold streaks are a killer. it's one thing to be up-and-down, and it's another to be the worst hitter in the league for weeks at a time, and in this case, months. he struck out 4 times the other night in 12 pitches.
he could get insanely hot again, as we've all seen him do. but these streaks are just killer.
Tapate50
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He needs to just set his calendar to April and May over and over again.
Tapate50
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ALWAYS have been... even legit league leading SB threats don't come here and flourish often.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
It has been a problem for so long. When we basically said we wanted speed and contact in the future, this was my biggest concern. According to Fangraphs, our baserunning from 91 to present is -43.8, #23 out of 30.
Yep, look at Lofton's year here. Bourn's numbers came down, though based on what he's done in Cleveland, it doesn't look bad.
Just speculation, but I'm guessing part of it is because we don't give guys a constant green light like some teams do. Great base stealers know when to go better than coaches do. Coaches base it on situation; great base stealers base it on the pitcher.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
I'm surprised it's not worse. I wonder what it's like the last 10 years?
That's BJ-level and will significantly hurt him on the market. Do not want.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Yup. Hard to dislodge good hitters from other teams.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
*hard to dislodge good hitters from other teams when they're super young, studs, and have years of cheap control left. we did not do that. we did not trade schwarber or correa. you're comparing what we did to trading correa or bryant, and that's just really silly.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
-54.9, #26.