The Biden Presidency

My favorite part of anytime something bad for Trump comes down the pike is to see what you people will say its a distraction from. You people every week claim some new hoax. When exactly is some bad news for Trump supposed to come down that you wouldnt claim its a distraction from something bad for Biden? But sure dude, keep thinking you would have "got Biden" if not for whatever distraction story. The ignorance it takes to believe the **** you do is mind boggling.
 
balances out the six consecutive upward revisions (that no seems to have noticed when it was happening) that preceded it...shown nicely in blue in the above graphic

i also can't help but notice the recent radio silence on the job growth numbers from the household survey (which for the record show job growth of 273,000 and 268,000 in the past two months)
 
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Nsacpi, as someone who has been traditionally conservative, why in the world do you still support Biden?

I get not wanting Trump. He isn't my choice either. But you simply can't deny how poorly the country this country is being run currently.
 
Carp said:
Nsacpi, as someone who has been traditionally conservative, why in the world do you still support Biden?

I get not wanting Trump. He isn't my choice either. But you simply can't deny how poorly the country this country is being run currently.
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leftists have completely morphed into the party of the elites and intellectual class... HRC, Obama, Biden all embolden that class... they hate working poor people.

that used to be more shifted to the Republican Party... nsacpi hasn't changed, the parties have
 
Carp said:
Nsacpi, as someone who has been traditionally conservative, why in the world do you still support Biden?

I get not wanting Trump. He isn't my choice either. But you simply can't deny how poorly the country this country is being run currently.
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Things I like about credibly accused creepy joe: Ukraine policy (we should be doing more!), policy of accountability re very poorly chosen one and his accomplices, incentives for switching to renewable energy (not the most elegant solution but the real world required a workaround that would get Manchin's vote), efforts to combat deza about vaccines and covid generally

Thinks I don't like so much: irresponsible fiscal policy (we should be bringing down the deficit), Afghanistan withdrawal, support for using race as a proxy for being disadvantaged
 
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sturg33 said:
Remember when Hunter was added to the Burisma board on May 12, 2014?

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Who sees the irony in this? I'll give you a minute before pointing it out. It doesnt come through in the quote so you will have to look at Sturgs post that I quoted.
 
nsacpi said:
Things I like about credibly accused creepy joe: Ukraine policy, policy of accountability re very poorly chosen one and his accomplices, incentives for switching to renewable energy (not the most elegant solution but the real world required a workaround that would get Manchin's vote), efforts to combat deza about vaccines and covid generally

Thinks I don't like so much: irresponsible fiscal policy (we should be bringing down the deficit), Afghanistan withdrawal, support for using race as a proxy for being disadvantaged
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How in the world can you be a fan of his Ukraine policy? It's literally one of the worst criticisms on his presidency.

Where is the accountability on the Democrat front? Look I think vax and COVID deniers are silly too, but are you seriously applauding Dems using the govt to censor social social media?
 
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How in the world can you be a fan of his Ukraine policy? It's literally one of the worst criticisms on his presidency.

Where is the accountability on the Democrat front? Look I think vax and COVID deniers are silly too, but are you seriously applauding Dems using the govt to censor social social media?
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We have towering interests in the stability of Europe. Allowing Putin to succeed would be an enormously destabilizing thing. It would have repercussions that would very much be against our national interest. So I think we should be providing Ukraine with much more military assistance in terms of quantity and lethality.

With respect to social media censorship, I think if a company has a policy that allows external input into its moderating decisions there is a role for government. The company should be able to say no thank you without being threatened or sanctioned. But if it is their policy to seek out and welcome external input then yes I would want the government to make that contribution, even recognizing that in some cases I might not agree with it. It is not a bad use of our tax dollars to have government help to contribute to getting better information out there.
 
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nsacpi said:
We have towering interests in the stability of Europe. Allowing Putin to succeed would be an enormously destabilizing thing. It would have repercussions that would very much be against our national interest. So I think we should be providing Ukraine with much more military assistance in terms of quantity and lethality.

With respect to social media censorship, I think if a company has a policy that allows external input into its moderating decisions there is a role for government. The company should be able to say no thank you without being threatened or sanctioned. But if it is their policy to seek out and welcome external input then yes I would want my elected representatives to make that contribution, even recognizing that in some cases I might not agree with it.
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Does it bother you at all that many of the things they tried to censor turned out to be true?
 
nsacpi said:
We have towering interests in the stability of Europe. Allowing Putin to succeed would be an enormously destabilizing thing. It would have repercussions that would very much be against our national interest. So I think we should be providing Ukraine with much more military assistance in terms of quantity and lethality.

With respect to social media censorship, I think if a company has a policy that allows external input into its moderating decisions there is a role for government. The company should be able to say no thank you without being threatened or sanctioned. But if it is their policy to seek out and welcome external input then yes I would want my elected representatives to make that contribution, even recognizing that in some cases I might not agree with it.
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No thanks. It will always morph into the government taking control. We just saw this happen.
 
sturg33 said:
Sure when the fbi pressured Facebook to remove posts about the lab leak theory.

this is behind a paywall of another trash org I won't offer my dollars to... but im sure there's some nuggets in there that you can spin away

https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-bowed-to-white-house-pressure-removed-covid-posts-2df436b7
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Eh. I read that article a while back. FB has to make these calls on a continual basis. There will be some we all take exception to and some they themselves will second guess themselves on. I'm ok with the president making the observation that some of the content posted there has contributed to people dying. Happens to be true. I'm sorry if that makes Nick Clegg and other FB executives feel "pressure." It must be an awful feeling.
 
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nsacpi said:
Eh. I read that article a while back. FB has to make these calls on a continual basis. There will be some we all take exception to and some they themselves will second guess themselves on. I'm ok with the president making the observation that some of the content posted there has contributed to people dying. Happens to be true. I'm sorry if that makes Nick Clegg and other FB executives feel "pressure." It must be an awful feeling.
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If the white house is asking to censor true information, how do you feel about that?
 
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