The Border Deal

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It’s all too good. Imagine if there were no gaps?

Have to be some kind of moron to think a wall isn’t part of a comprehensive border security plan.
 
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It’s all too good. Imagine if there were no gaps?

Have to be some kind of moron to think a wall isn’t part of a comprehensive border security plan.

I've already provided irrefutable proof that are gaps in the very wall that Trump built. They are either sawing or welding through it. And others just use a ladder.
 
+ Hamas has been digging tunnels under the wall. Just sayin

I have always advocated for a moat filled with alligators. Much better than a wall. Or barbed wire.
 
I've already provided irrefutable proof that are gaps in the very wall that Trump built. They are either sawing or welding through it. And others just use a ladder.

The ladders are not being used to transport hundreds of thousands of migrants and the gaps being mentioned here are not welded areas that you can only fit one person in at a time. So no - you haven't provided evidence of what you are saying.
 
+ Hamas has been digging tunnels under the wall. Just sayin

I have always advocated for a moat filled with alligators. Much better than a wall. Or barbed wire.

Tunnels are easy to destroy and the reason tunnels are being dug is because of the wall deterrent.
 
Got nothing but love for you aside for one issue! Will always engage with you. You just don’t come around these parts anymore.

Nothing but love on this side either. Just lost interest in the debate eventually. We’ll see if the urge picks up around the election lol.
 
The ladders are not being used to transport hundreds of thousands of migrants and the gaps being mentioned here are not welded areas that you can only fit one person in at a time. So no - you haven't provided evidence of what you are saying.

Yes they are. They are literally crossing at a place in that video you shared where 1 person at a time is crossing through, just like they are currently doing with Trump's wall in some areas.

Here is a look at how great Trump's wall held up in AZ.


https://gizmodo.com/trumps-border-w...IBacp0nMS-7hTGRy_BsE3QNrtDybVS_bLxWEYF1I0gGC8


And how great it was working in parts of TX.

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/trump-border-wall-ladders/
 
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Yes they are. They are literally crossing at a place in that video you shared where 1 person at a time is crossing through, just like they are currently doing with Trump's wall.

Here is a look at how great Trump's wall held up in AZ.


https://gizmodo.com/trumps-border-w...IBacp0nMS-7hTGRy_BsE3QNrtDybVS_bLxWEYF1I0gGC8


And how great it was working in parts of TX.

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/trump-border-wall-ladders/

Great - So you experience and learn how to make things better and you adapt.

We are not getting migrations by the hundreds of thousands using ladders. Its much easier to walk across unwalled land and therefore is an impediment that allows easier policiing.

But all you are doing is posting a small handful of articles highlighting issues (that are easily correctable) and not the fact that the wall is still diverting flow as its designed to do.
 
Great - So you experience and learn how to make things better and you adapt.

We are not getting migrations by the hundreds of thousands using ladders. Its much easier to walk across unwalled land and therefore is an impediment that allows easier policiing.

But all you are doing is posting a small handful of articles highlighting issues (that are easily correctable) and not the fact that the wall is still diverting flow as its designed to do.

All at the cost of the taxpayer. Let's spend another 11 billion on it to see if that works.

And no, these are not easily correctable solutions. Nor are they cheap. I've already mentioned the annual cost of upkeep on a wall like this, which was based on numbers for about 5 years ago, which have no doubt risen about 50% since then (maybe more). And all this ignores the environmental costs as this article points out:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/im...t-damage-destruction-environmental-rcna103973
 
All at the cost of the taxpayer. Let's spend another 11 billion on it to see if that works.

And no, these are not easily correctable solutions. Nor are they cheap. I've already mentioned the annual cost of upkeep on a wall like this, which was based on numbers for about 5 years ago, which have no doubt risen about 50% since then (maybe more). And all this ignores the environmental costs as this article points out:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/im...t-damage-destruction-environmental-rcna103973

You are comparing the cost relative to what alternative that is cheaper?

A wall is 100% a deterrent as opposed to open space where apparently you think we can have a border patrol agent every mile and millions od drones flying around doing what? Shooting migrants?
 
You are comparing the cost relative to what alternative that is cheaper?

A wall is 100% a deterrent as opposed to open space where apparently you think we can have a border patrol agent every mile and millions od drones flying around doing what? Shooting migrants?

Understand, we already have some fencing on the border that we regularly maintain. It may be a lot easier to maneuver than a large wall, but it is in fact a deterrent as it currently stands.

What I am talking about is large patrol hubs strategically placed every 50-100 miles at the border with constant patrols of the border. This isn't a new concept. Fencing, patrol stations, and 24/7 patrols are in place along borders all over the world.

And millions of drones? No. We're talking enough to cover the 2k mile long border. So a 3k-4k drones Max. These purpose of these drones is to take recon both along the border to identify any migrant groups trying to cross. With the help of AI, these could be largely unmanned drones. Once migrant grouips are identified, you send border patrol agents to detain them and deport them within 48 hrs.
 
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