sturg33
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Its security theater
The Coronavirus, not the beer
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Its security theater
Ita psychological warfare on the economy actually.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
The number of factors affecting the rate at which the virus spreads is quite large. Masks are one. But far from the only one. No one claims that masks are the only thing that matters.
Some of the other factors are demographic or geographical. Being on an island is good. Being on a relatively isolated peninsula is almost as good. Having a low population density is also good. Having a relatively young population helps. Having relatively small households helps. Having a high proportion of one-person households helps even more.
The Scandinavian countries are all on islands or relatively isolated peninsulas. They have small households and low population density. Younger populations than say Italy. So they start out with some advantages. They were all able to bring the virus' reproduction rate from well above 1 in March to below 1 in April and beyond. In the case of Sweden, they were able to bring it slightly below one. Deaths have steadily declined, but not as fast as the other Scandinavian countries who took more drastic measures. That's why Sweden has had more deaths.
The fact that those countries do not have widespread wearing of masks is not evidence that masks are ineffective. What it does show is that there are a variety of things that affect the virus' reproductive rate.
Mask wearing does have the virtue of being a "cheap" intervention. It has a lower cost to society than lockdowns of various forms. From a cost-benefit point of view every country and state should be strongly promoting mask wearing.
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There are other factors when the spread isn't there if no masks are present bit those same factors don't exist when masks are worn in areas where the spread isn't prevalent.
Amazing.
Almost as good as the leave the anarchists alone strategy.
Cant make up how smart this guy is.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
After dropping in June, Covid-19 deaths in nursing homes have begun to rise again, fueled by increases in states including Texas and Florida that saw coronavirus surges in the broader population, according to new federal data.
Nursing homes reported 1,046 deaths in the week ended July 26, the most recent available data show. That marked a 14% increase from the prior week and a 24% increase from the first week of July, when the number of weekly nursing home deaths in the federal data hit a low point.
Five months after the virus first devastated a nursing home in Kirkland, Wash., the new findings, in a Wall Street Journal analysis of the federal data, show nursing homes’ defenses remain permeable when the virus takes hold in the communities that surround them. The Journal’s analysis excluded some nursing homes with aberrant data.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/nursin...-again-federal-data-show-11596899575?mod=e2tw
Nursing homes reported 1,046 deaths in the week ended July 26, the most recent available data show. That marked a 14% increase from the prior week and a 24% increase from the first week of July, when the number of weekly nursing home deaths in the federal data hit a low point.
Five months after the virus first devastated a nursing home in Kirkland, Wash., the new findings, in a Wall Street Journal analysis of the federal data, show nursing homes’ defenses remain permeable when the virus takes hold in the communities that surround them. The Journal’s analysis excluded some nursing homes with aberrant data.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/nursin...-again-federal-data-show-11596899575?mod=e2tw
Totally. I bet the rest of the world is doing the same thing. Coding everything COVID to get more money from the US and make OO look bad. Just a total conspiracy.
Dude readily admits he is a liar. And Sturg eagerly believes he says, lol.
cajunrevenge
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I imagine traffic deaths are down a lot.
Yeah, traffic deaths have to be at lows for several decades. States shutdown for at least a month. No public transit in many places during this time. Schools have been out since late March. I know I've seen considerably less traffic driving to and from work. Even driving through Atlanta has been a breeze, and that literally never happens. I assume this also trickles down to other areas as emergency crews are having less road related calls to go out on, so they can be available to other people who need emergency assistance. Also reduces traffic on the roads so emergency crews can get to the hospital quicker.
approximately 100 traffic accidnt deaths per day in a normal year.
How about adjustments in the opposite direction.
This just goes to show that extend the period long enough and majority of people that died of covid had probabaly less than a year to live under normal circumstances.
But lets shut down everything.
sturg33
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Well, the US leads the world in "cases " right?
Edit: Sorry was looking at deaths. Even still, we're 4th in the world in cases per capita.
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sturg33
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That... wasnt the point
Tapate50
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The main point of emphasis for this outbreak should be taking care of yourself. You should not rely on the government to prevent something that if you had done your part, would not be a threat to you as much. Your own primary health care is YOUR business and no one else. There is SO much information on how to eat and what to eat for it to be an excuse. Exercise is free for ****s sake.
Most of the patients in our ICU had no idea they were diabetic, or hypertensive at all. It is really sad.
Most of the patients in our ICU had no idea they were diabetic, or hypertensive at all. It is really sad.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Yes and no.
We should take care of ourselves and take responsibility for our health.
But with infectious diseases an individual will not typically internalize the costs that others bear for their actions. This means there is a role for government action. Requiring vaccines for example as a condition for attending public schools.
The same could be said of traffic rules. We should take care of ourselves and take responsibility for driving safely. But there are external costs to our not driving safely that many will not internalize. Hence government intervention in the form of speed limits and other rules.