nsacpi
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My older son is relocating from Atlanta to San Francisco next month. He's been plotting his return to California for a while. He should be able to score a nice deal on an apartment.
The Coronavirus, not the beer
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My older son is relocating from Atlanta to San Francisco next month. He's been plotting his return to California for a while. He should be able to score a nice deal on an apartment.
msstate7
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Good deal, may need one less dem vote in Georgia this November haha
I saw NYC last December and I plan on visiting SF next year... well, if covid allows
nsacpi
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He's always been the most politically conservative of my three kids. But he's done a sharp turn left during the past few years. I don't talk much politics with him, but he and I have had pretty much the same reaction.
San Francisco is very beautiful viewed from a distance. From the Marin County side and also from the Oakland hills. I used to drive up to Grizzly Peak Blvd in the hills and there are places to park and watch the sunset. It is the best free thing in the world, with or without your recreational drug of choice. It is also impossibly romantic, so bring your wife or lady friend.
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nsacpi
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Covid-19 is known to be particularly risky for the elderly. For many minorities, the disease is killing them in the prime of their lives.
Among people in the U.S. who died between their mid-40s and mid-70s since the pandemic began, the virus is responsible for about 9% of deaths. For Latino people who died in that age range, the virus has killed nearly 25%, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of death-certificate data collected by federal authorities.
The data show how deaths from the coronavirus are skewing younger for many minorities, a stark disparity that offers a clear picture of the pandemic’s outsize impact on vulnerable populations.
This is especially the case for Latino people, in part because their high representation in jobs ranging from health aides to meatpacking have made it harder for some of them to dodge the virus, and because many have poorer access to care, according to public-health experts.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-...-many-minorities-11597582801?mod=hp_lead_pos4
Among people in the U.S. who died between their mid-40s and mid-70s since the pandemic began, the virus is responsible for about 9% of deaths. For Latino people who died in that age range, the virus has killed nearly 25%, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of death-certificate data collected by federal authorities.
The data show how deaths from the coronavirus are skewing younger for many minorities, a stark disparity that offers a clear picture of the pandemic’s outsize impact on vulnerable populations.
This is especially the case for Latino people, in part because their high representation in jobs ranging from health aides to meatpacking have made it harder for some of them to dodge the virus, and because many have poorer access to care, according to public-health experts.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-...-many-minorities-11597582801?mod=hp_lead_pos4
Runnin
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This is why the virus killing Americans doesn't bother OO.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Looking at some of the charts in the WSJ article, covid deaths per capita is significantly higher for hispanics age 65-74 than for whites aged 75-84. Put another way being 65 and hispanic puts you at as great a risk of dying from covid as a white person age 80.
Moving to younger groups, a hispanic person aged 55-64 has twice the risk of dying of covid as a white person aged 65-74.
Blacks and hispanics aged 45-54 have about the same risk as a white person aged 65-74.
The above reflects the combination of a higher probability of getting infected if you are a minority and a worse outcome once you are infected if you are a minority.
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msstate7
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Lol
Its the only sensible solution in these crazy times. I'm very concerned for grandma.
Had a coordinated strategy to combat the virus that everyone got on board with. Actually listened to the health experts and didn't try to inject their own unprofessional opinions into national the policy for combating the virus. Didn't encourage behavior that led the public to distrust the medical community. Didn't further divide an already divided country.
Just to name a few.
Continue use of the subway and encouraging congregation in Chinatown listening to the experts?
sturg33
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Do you admit that trump did try to cancel flights from China as soon as he could, while the democratic leaders called it racist and encouraged people to Go out and mingle?
cajunrevenge
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nsacpi
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The details vary from place to place. But there are some commonalities. Bringing infection rates low enough before re-opening so that contact tracing had a chance for effectiveness. Being cautious in terms of re-opening in terms of staggering which kinds of establishments can open at a point in time, giving authorities a chance to evaluate the impact on transmission. And taking seriously the inevitable spikes that occur.
The sunbelt states basically neglected those things (reflecting a decision by governors to listen to very poorly chosen one rather than experts). So you had re-openings where basically there was no staggering to allow for careful evaluation. There was no serious contact tracing program. Infection rates in some cases were still high (5% or higher positive test returns). And the messaging around the sunbelt re-openings led people to think they no longer had to be careful. Belatedly, states like Arizona and Texas realized that they needed a different kind of messaging. And people in those states started behaving differently.
Another area of difference was the lockdowns themselves. Data on things like cell phone mobility show that the lockdowns in many states produced smaller reductions in mobility. So we had shorter lighter lockdowns. Sunbelt states reopened in a cavalier manner. They were not in a position to trace and detect outbreaks. States were slow to detect and respond to spikes. So those outbreaks spread much more widely than in the countries that have taken things seriously.
End result: deaths reported since the end of June
France 563
Italy 619
Germany 259
Spain 1,250
Canada 428
United States 41,442
Our response has been tragically incompetent and the results bear that out. Other countries learned from what happened in March and April and figured out a strategy that worked for them. We didn't.
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