Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
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The Coronavirus, not the beer
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Anyone that has any sense knows that the rise of populism is a threat to the new global order that the ccp has been on record saying they strive for.
Trump specifically was a threat as he introduced an anti ccp stance into the mainstream while we had 30 years of kowtowing as the elite profited off of America’s managed decline.
Trump specifically was a threat as he introduced an anti ccp stance into the mainstream while we had 30 years of kowtowing as the elite profited off of America’s managed decline.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
so you wouldn't rule out that they did this to get very poorly chosen one out
That would have been goal z if anything. They wanted to destabilize the world so they can assume control.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
We're all dead if they can do what you are trying to say they can. And yet you call what amounts to a defense against their attacks (in your opinion) fear. It's just weird, really. Why wouldn't you want to defeat their attack if you really believed all this nonsense?
Yeah. Completely rational to get mad at people living their lives. Despite all your worrying did you catch it once? Looks like everything’s ok so just more irrational worry that you have now started to push to others.
They didn’t want to kill everyone. That would be a stupid thing to do as it would have united the world against them.
What ended up happening is exactly why they wanted. Self inflicted economic devastation as they maintain their system.
striker42
Well-known member
First, mutations that evade natural immunity is not a low probability event. It's what diseases like this do. Give it enough of a population to circulate and give it long enough and you will have mutations leading to re-infections.
Second, low probability events drive policy for the country all the time. A low probability risk of something massively bad happening definitely drives policy. We have entire military programs devoted to guarding against low probability events.
One thing I can't stress enough is that this should be a simple cost/benefit analysis. There's almost no downside to you going and getting a vaccine. There's almost no risk of you having any serious complications, you don't have to pay anything, about all that will happen is that you'll feel lousy for a day. The benefit is that you're protected from getting a potentially serious illness and are helping contribute to getting enough immunity to prevent mutations that will set up back to square 1.
There's almost no downside to this and while you might view the possibility of a variant cropping up as remote, the downside of that is so great that it justifies getting the vaccine.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Have you considered the possibility that thethe works for the ccp. His anti-ccp rhetoric is an excellent cover. But when you look past the rhetoric he advocates things that improve the ccp's chances of destroying the west. I wouldn't rule it out.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
Did you even read my response? This is about management. Not people "living their lives." What the **** are you even on about?
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I've occasionally tried to steer the discussion in that direction. Without much success.
Here is cost/benefit analysis of mitigation measures written in the early stages of the pandemic. It is a bit dated (which illustrates the need to constantly update assumptions in a fluid situation), but still has some good insights. More importantly for anyone interested in how cost/benefit analysis is done for something like that, it is a chance to see how it is done.
https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uplo...the-optimal-duration-WP-May-update.pdf?x91208
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Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
With you and people like you helping them along the whole way. Interesting.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
The problem is that trumpers don't realize that herd immunity without immunization is almost impossible and incredibly deadly. As we've seen new variants come from areas that didn't handle the virus well that can seemingly get around the existing immunity.
striker42
Well-known member
There hasn't been much pressure on the virus for an immunity bypassing variant to emerge. It has had plenty of hosts and so the variants that cropped up in large numbers tended to do that because they were more contagious. As more people get natural immunity and vaccine immunity, the viruses that survive will be the ones that can start bypassing natural immunity.
We're 18 months into this. That's not that long. So using a lack of immune dodging variants at this point as evidence of anything is pretty weak.
And I'm not arguing that it should be mandated or people should be shamed. I'm arguing that people should make the rational choice and decide to get vaccinated.
Oklahomahawk
Boras' Client
And if the people who didn't want to get the vaccine and/or wear a mask would stay strictly to themselves (or each other) I would completely agree with you. What seems to have been overlooked (or ignored) by so many during this mess is that your (not your personally, your in general) rights are absolute as long as they don't violate somebody else's rights. I know you'll probably disagree but that's fine. I don't get agreed with all that much these days anyway.
