The Coronavirus, not the beer

acesfull86 said:
People who are running 20 miles a week and doing weight training in their homes should have a right to prove they're healthy, not be forced into a gym membership that may or may not provide any incremental benefit (and could possibly come at a cost)
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Of course, a subsidy leaves people free to do what they want. But it more properly aligns the social costs and benefits of their choices to what they themselves are bearing. That's the whole point. This kind of market-based approach leaves people free to make their choices. Some people will choose to remain unvaccinated even if they have to bear the full cost of their choice. There's no problem with that.

Under a subsidy plan, the idea is to make it generous enough so that 80% of the population (or whatever number is needed to achieve herd immunity) opts to get vaccinated.

Checking on whether someone is running 20 miles is another example of additional administrative complexity that is probably not worth it. In principle it makes sense. And we have the technology now with fitbits and apple watches. But it strikes me as not worth the trouble.
 
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nsacpi said:
Of course, a subsidy leaves people free to do what they want. But it more properly aligns the social costs and benefits of their choices to what they themselves are bearing. That's the whole point. This kind of market-based approach leaves people free to make their choices. Some people will choose to remain unvaccinated even if they have to bear the full cost of their choice. There's no problem with that.

Under a subsidy plan, the idea is to make it generous enough so that 80% of the population (or whatever number is needed to achieve herd immunity) opts to get vaccinated.

Checking on whether someone is running 20 miles is another example of additional administrative complexity that is probably not worth it. In principle it makes sense. And we have the technology now with fitbits and apple watches. But it strikes me as not worth the trouble.
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It's probably not the best analogy because the at-home exerciser could always say screw it, I'm just going to stop my current routine and join the gym because the financial incentives make it worth switching.

The person with the present COVID antibodies can't go back in time and not get infected with the disease.

Does the additional injection of vaccine antibodies confer any additional costs or benefits to the individual or society at large? It seems to me that there's enough uncertainty at this point to warrant at least a little caution.

In your system, where we're talking about a couple thousand dollars changing hands, I don't think it's a major issue. The individual can wait it out a little bit and try to gather additional information. I much prefer your system to the one we have now where mayors of cities say you must get vaccinated to enter stores, eat at restaurants, fly on airplanes, perform your job, etc. In that system, I have more sympathy for individuals who actually have the antibodies in another form.
 
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acesfull86 said:
It's probably not the best analogy because the at-home exerciser could always say screw it, I'm just going to stop my current routine and join the gym because the financial incentives make it worth switching.

The person with the present COVID antibodies can't go back in time and not get infected with the disease.

Does the additional injection of vaccine antibodies confer any additional costs or benefits to the individual or society at large? It seems to me that there's enough uncertainty at this point to warrant at least a little caution.
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It's just an additional layer of administrative complexity. It strikes me as doable. If it makes some people happy I have no objection.

I will say that the "aggravation" effect on the unvaccinated should not be underrated. I know a few people who have recently gotten vaccinated just because they didn't want to deal with the hassle of being unvaccinated. But I understand it also brings about a certain amount of social discord, and would prefer to avoid that.
 
What I find most interesting are academic lecturers not understanding what the big deal is...

Just stupid people, who feel important but know so little

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sturg33 said:
What I find most interesting are academic lecturers not understanding what the big deal is...

Just stupid people, who feel important but know so little

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America is waking up. I know we see lots of the npcs on this forum but in realty we are the majority. It was that way in Nov 3rd and it’s still that way today.
 
Israel continues to have a Vermont-like covid fatality rate. I would think that morsel of information would find its way into any discussion of vaccine efficacy. Goes for posters both with and without an MD attached to their name.
 
Former bodybuilder?

How many enhancement drugs has he taken in his life? Steroids does awful things to you long term.

But these outliers are fun. You guys must be terrified of dying from the vaccine since there are people who have died after taking it.
 
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