The Coronavirus, not the beer

thethe said:
Variants reinfecting people.

Short lasting immunity.

Originally herd immunity as you advocated for lockdowns.

Need I go on?
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You don't understand how herd immunity works. You didn't then, and somehow you have managed to still avoid understanding it all this time later.

Short lasting immunity didn't worry me a ton. I knew it was a possibility, but I knew it was just as likely not a problem. The problem would've been jumping to an erroneous conclusion based on incomplete evidence.

If allowed to continue spreading through a population of over 7 billion, mutations will eventually change the virus to something that is almost completely different, and it will "reinfect" people. This is a high probability under those circumstances. What I am trying to not have to do again is another ****ing lockdown and more masks and blah blah blah. So if there is anything I'm afraid of, that would be it. Meanwhile, your side is terrified of vaccines and act like they are worse than the virus, all while calling us scared. lol
 
I also love the comment of not understanding herd immunity. Aside from I think nsacpi there isn’t another person on this forum who has studied as much mathematics as I have.

But please tell me how you’re an expert because you’ve read some articles.
 
Dalyn said:
You don't understand how herd immunity works. You didn't then, and somehow you have managed to still avoid understanding it all this time later.

Short lasting immunity didn't worry me a ton. I knew it was a possibility, but I knew it was just as likely not a problem. The problem would've been jumping to an erroneous conclusion based on incomplete evidence.

If allowed to continue spreading through a population of over 7 billion, mutations will eventually change the virus to something that is almost completely different, and it will "reinfect" people. This is a high probability under those circumstances. What I am trying to not have to do again is another ****ing lockdown and more masks and blah blah blah. So if there is anything I'm afraid of, that would be it. Meanwhile, your side is terrified of vaccines and act like they are worse than the virus, all while calling us scared. lol
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Who is terrified of a vaccine? I’m perfectly fine with anyone who wants to get it. I recently got my newborn vaccinated.

Mutations will eventually get there despite not one single mutation bypassing prior immunity? Looks like fear of a low probability event. There is in effect no reinfection across the globe.
 
thethe said:
You could absolutely get to her immunity which is in essence an extremely low transmission rate as there are fewer uninflected hosts. The idea should have always been to make sure as many low risk people got infected so the high risk could live their lives after a few months.

The whole point of obtaining herd immunity was to protect the at risk. Now we have a way to protect them without herd immunity.

So aside from your completely non scientific fear of variants tell me why should we strive for herd immunity?
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You're wrong. Get over it. Stop being so terrified of facts, and stop trying to push ignorance onto everyone because of your fear.
 
thethe said:
I also love the comment of not understanding herd immunity. Aside from I think nsacpi there isn’t another person on this forum who has studied as much mathematics as I have.

But please tell me how you’re an expert because you’ve read some articles.
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You've demonstrated your ignorance on this matter. Just about every person in the world who studies herd immunity agrees with me, but Mister "I Know Math!" over here knows better than all of us. hahahahahahahaha You really are something.
 
Dalyn said:
You're wrong. Get over it. Stop being so terrified of facts, and stop trying to push ignorance onto everyone because of your fear.
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Keep being afraid of low probability events. Don’t push your irrational fears on others.

In six months when still no variants bypass immunity you’ll make up some bull**** excuse why you were still right.
 
Herd immunity was lambasted by the anti science left as a death cult.

They instead demanded people board up scared in their basements.

The rest of us understood the risks and moved on with our lives.

Yall hung on faucis every word (that changed daily)
 
Dalyn said:
You've demonstrated your ignorance on this matter. Just about every person in the world who studies herd immunity agrees with me, but Mister "I Know Math!" over here knows better than all of us. hahahahahahahaha You really are something.
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Herd immunity is a straight forward mathematical exercise. There is nothing more to it since there is no replacement (something I’ve been saying for over a year).

Trust the experts though when you don’t understand the basics.
 
thethe said:
I also love the comment of not understanding herd immunity. Aside from I think nsacpi there isn’t another person on this forum who has studied as much mathematics as I have.

But please tell me how you’re an expert because you’ve read some articles.
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Eh. I've written a few, too. That helps.
 
sturg33 said:
Herd immunity was lambasted by the anti science left as a death cult.

They instead demanded people board up scared in their basements.

The rest of us understood the risks and moved on with our lives.

Yall hung on faucis every word (that changed daily)
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The idea of herd immunity you guys were throwing around was just ridiculous. Still is.
 
Yall scared little bitches came her every time someone you knew got the covid.

Updates on everyone as if it was some ground breaking announcement that we needed to drop everything and start praying.

Very dramatic
 
thethe said:
There has not been one variant discovered that gets past natural immunity. Reinfection rates around the globe are statistically zero and are more likely caused by over cycling pcr tests and catching dead virus.

I’m not against people taking the vaccine but nobody under 40 that’s healthy should take it since no mutation has been able to get past people immunity. Therefore, the people actually at risk can be protected while not pushi mg inner fears on the rest of the healthy population.
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The fact that there is a variant that gets past natural immunity just shows you that it can happen. If tomorrow a variant pops up in Egypt that bypasses all immunity and is as infectious as what's out there, how long before it spreads around the globe? Covid took less than 6 months to go from a few people in Wuhan to overwhelming hospitals around the world.

The best way to limit the potential for mutation is to limit the number of hosts. The more people infected the more mutations you're going to have and the more mutations you have the more likely you'll get one that's dangerous. By vaccinating everyone we can greatly decrease the likelihood of immune bypassing variants.

Then there's the fact that there's the potential for variants that bypass natural immunity but don't bypass vaccine immunity. As I explained, the vaccine provides greater protection against mutations. If you wait for the variant that bypasses natural immunity to become a problem before going and getting a vaccine, you've waited too long.

So there are absolutely reasons why healthy people under 40 who have had covid (like myself) should go get the vaccine.
 
I hope the year long propaganda and lying and destroying lives was worth it to get the orange man out

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striker42 said:
The fact that there is a variant that gets past natural immunity just shows you that it can happen. If tomorrow a variant pops up in Egypt that bypasses all immunity and is as infectious as what's out there, how long before it spreads around the globe? Covid took less than 6 months to go from a few people in Wuhan to overwhelming hospitals around the world.

The best way to limit the potential for mutation is to limit the number of hosts. The more people infected the more mutations you're going to have and the more mutations you have the more likely you'll get one that's dangerous. By vaccinating everyone we can greatly decrease the likelihood of immune bypassing variants.

Then there's the fact that there's the potential for variants that bypass natural immunity but don't bypass vaccine immunity. As I explained, the vaccine provides greater protection against mutations. If you wait for the variant that bypasses natural immunity to become a problem before going and getting a vaccine, you've waited too long.

So there are absolutely reasons why healthy people under 40 who have had covid (like myself) should go get the vaccine.
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Low probability events should not drive policy for the whole country. We are either a free people or not.

If a variant is ever discovered to bypass immunity then those that are concerned can get a vaccine.
 
striker42 said:
The fact that there is a variant that gets past natural immunity just shows you that it can happen. If tomorrow a variant pops up in Egypt that bypasses all immunity and is as infectious as what's out there, how long before it spreads around the globe? Covid took less than 6 months to go from a few people in Wuhan to overwhelming hospitals around the world.

The best way to limit the potential for mutation is to limit the number of hosts. The more people infected the more mutations you're going to have and the more mutations you have the more likely you'll get one that's dangerous. By vaccinating everyone we can greatly decrease the likelihood of immune bypassing variants.

Then there's the fact that there's the potential for variants that bypass natural immunity but don't bypass vaccine immunity. As I explained, the vaccine provides greater protection against mutations. If you wait for the variant that bypasses natural immunity to become a problem before going and getting a vaccine, you've waited too long.

So there are absolutely reasons why healthy people under 40 who have had covid (like myself) should go get the vaccine.
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We've gone over this a ton with these two. It doesn't matter.
 
sturg33 said:
I hope the year long propaganda and lying and destroying lives was worth it to get the orange man out

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It’s so ****ing obvious. But since the ccp owns all of western media/Hollywood/big business and a good deal of politicians they were never going to be held accountable.


But of course experts like Dalyn know better.
 
Dalyn said:
We've gone over this a ton with these two. It doesn't matter.
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Yeh. You want to push your fear on others.

I remember you freaking out because your job had some covid cases. Get a grip man.

If the cdcs defense of people dying after the vaccine didn’t inform you that the covid deaths numbers are a joke then you just aren’t as bright as I thought you were.
 
Could it be that the CCP deliberately released it as part of a scheme to interfere in our elections and get very poorly chosen one out and Hunter's dad in? Has anyone thought about that angle and ruled it in or ruled it out?
 
thethe said:
Yeh. You want to push your fear on others.

I remember you freaking out because your job had some covid cases. Get a grip man.

If the cdcs defense of people dying after the vaccine didn’t inform you that the covid deaths numbers are a joke then you just aren’t as bright as I thought you were.
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Freaking out? lol I was mad because I have at-risk people in my life, and my job was putting everyone at more risk than necessary by ignoring guidelines and bypassing procedures.
 
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