The Coronavirus, not the beer

sturg33 said:
Honestly what is the endgame for the pro maskers, if there is in fact an end game
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They have to weigh (1) what’s the upside going from a mask recommendation to a mask mandate (there’s nothing stopping people from wearing the mask on their own, if they want to (2) what’s the rate of compliance if they institute a mandate (3) more importantly, what’s the rate of compliance in districts with lower than average vaccine rates
(4) how does a mask mandate impact vaccine hesitancy in either direction

To me, the downsides outweigh the upsides. The govt should be using whatever juice they have left trying to convince the vaccine hesitant (the ones who can be reached) to get the vaccine. A mask mandate would just detract from the effort, and the states/individuals most likely to abide by it are the ones who are already most protected by the disease.

Of all the things we’ve tried, the vaccines are the only thing that we can say for sure has worked (*paging thethe*) That should really be the only thing we’re focusing on.
 
acesfull86 said:
They have to weigh (1) what’s the upside going from a mask recommendation to a mask mandate (there’s nothing stopping people from wearing the mask on their own, if they want to (2) what’s the rate of compliance if they institute a mandate (3) more importantly, what’s the rate of compliance in districts with lower than average vaccine rates
(4) how does a mask mandate impact vaccine hesitancy in either direction

To me, the downsides outweigh the upsides. The govt should be using whatever juice they have left trying to convince the vaccine hesitant (the ones who can be reached) to get the vaccine. A mask mandate would just detract from the effort, and the states/individuals most likely to abide by it are the ones who are already most protected by the disease.

Of all the things we’ve tried, the vaccines are the only thing that we can say for sure has worked (*paging thethe*) That should really be the only thing we’re focusing on.
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The people that are being helped by the experimental treatment are the ones I've always said should be taking it.
 
Tapate50 said:
More people would get the vaccine if they A) got FDA approval and B) removed the liability waiver for the companies producing it.
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Agreed. Pretty telling the only real successes the FDA has had during this crisis are the instances where they deviated from their usual standard operating procedure. Makes you think what the agency is really worth, especially in a crisis. I know my answer…
 
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acesfull86 said:
Agreed. Pretty telling the only real successes the FDA has had during this crisis are the instances where they deviated from their usual standard operating procedure. Makes you think what the agency is really worth, especially in a crisis. I know my answer…
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Imagine if it was Biden instead of Trump in charge of blowing through the normal regulatory environment
 
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goldfly said:
You’d have huge issues with it instead of praising him like you did trump?
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It wouldn't have happened. Theyd still be following the rules and a vaccine would be years away from approval.

As all the lefty media promised us last year when Trump was touting vaccine development
 
Oh that's right.
You have forgotten the Trump.Admin threw away everything they received in transition.
Including pandemic response


So will never know , will we ?
 
There is no end with these people. They will always move the goal posts.

Electing Biden is turning into a human rights travesty

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aren't these the same states that banded together over Confederate Monuments ?
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Put this in the Biden thread but will put it here too: I will say... as a federal worker, I am annoyed that we have been ordered to mask up at the office, even if we are vaccinated now. I think this is a bad move and a stupid one from Biden. At least our union is about to throw a fit
 
zbhargrove said:
Put this in the Biden thread but will put it here too: I will say... as a federal worker, I am annoyed that we have been ordered to mask up at the office, even if we are vaccinated now. I think this is a bad move and a stupid one from Biden. At least our union is about to throw a fit
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Don't comply.

It's the only way this **** is ever going to end
 
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