The Coronavirus, not the beer

It is 30.

Wonder if this will give mlb pause on mandating it for milb

It won't matter at all.

Big Pharma has bought out DC and MSM and they are now the ones that are pushing the fear which is driving the country mad.

COVID cowards are ruining the country right now. Get your shot and leave the rest of us alone. I'm sorry so many people can't understand basic math.
 
Pretty sure it referenced 30.

My initial reaction to vaccination will end up being dead on. Healthy people under 40 should not be getting vaccinated.

Except that your initial reaction is already wrong. We know thousands of healthy people under the age of 40 have died in the US from Covid. Millions of healthy people under 40 have gotten vaccinated with just a handful of deaths related to the vaccine.

The risk of dying if you get it and are healthy and under 40 is low but still way, way higher than dying from the vaccine.

As we go younger and younger with the vaccine we do need to be more careful as the risk of Covid decreases the younger you go so the benefit of the vaccine is reduced. This means the still extremely rare potential side effects have less to balance them out. So we do need to closely study the numbers with the very young. But for other demographics, we already have the stats.
 
Except that your initial reaction is already wrong. We know thousands of healthy people under the age of 40 have died in the US from Covid. Millions of healthy people under 40 have gotten vaccinated with just a handful of deaths related to the vaccine.

The risk of dying if you get it and are healthy and under 40 is low but still way, way higher than dying from the vaccine.

As we go younger and younger with the vaccine we do need to be more careful as the risk of Covid decreases the younger you go so the benefit of the vaccine is reduced. This means the still extremely rare potential side effects have less to balance them out. So we do need to closely study the numbers with the very young. But for other demographics, we already have the stats.

Show me where you are seeing 'thousands'.
 
It won't matter at all.

Big Pharma has bought out DC and MSM and they are now the ones that are pushing the fear which is driving the country mad.

COVID cowards are ruining the country right now. Get your shot and leave the rest of us alone. I'm sorry so many people can't understand basic math.

Except that the vast majority of the country hasn't been driven mad. You have some outlier areas with vaccine requirements to go to public places but even those are pretty rare. Most places people have just gotten the vaccine and gone on with life.

Getting a shot that is extremely safe because it reduces the risk associated with a very common disease isn't being a "covid coward." It's just making a decision informed by, as you say, basic math.
 
CDC data on deaths by age can be found here.

https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-by-Sex-and-Age/9bhg-hcku/data

499 ages 0-17 (pretty sure this does NOT include children yet to be born, see post 23762)

3,739 ages 18-29

10,872 ages 30-39

for perspective, the chickenpox vaccine saves about 1,000 lives per year and passes various cost-benefit tests...it is given to a population that is not vulnerable to serious illness from chickenpox to protect various populations that are
 
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Except that the vast majority of the country hasn't been driven mad. You have some outlier areas with vaccine requirements to go to public places but even those are pretty rare. Most places people have just gotten the vaccine and gone on with life.

Getting a shot that is extremely safe because it reduces the risk associated with a very common disease isn't being a "covid coward." It's just making a decision informed by, as you say, basic math.

I have no issue with anyone getting a shot. Healthy people are making the wrong choice if they get one.

The Covid cowards are the ones that are pushing for everyone else to get the jabs.

Free country
 
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[1] Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, coded to ICD–10 code U07.1.

Lets remember the following:

1 - Cycle rate was determined to be too specific because dead virus was being picked up in the PCR tests
2 - It was confirmed that the PCR tests do not distinguish between regular influenza and COVID


You have any other worthless points to make lecturer?

BTW - I was prepared for you to post that data because its the standard for people that don't understand what is happening and have fully bought into the Big Pharma propaganda.
 
CDC data on deaths by age can be found here.

https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-by-Sex-and-Age/9bhg-hcku/data

499 ages 0-17 (pretty sure this does NOT include children yet to be born, see post 23762)

3,739 ages 18-29

10,872 ages 30-39

for perspective, the chickenpox vaccine saves about 1,000 lives per year and passes various cost-benefit tests...it is given to a population that is not vulnerable to serious illness from chickenpox to protect various populations that are

Unborn are definitely children, and they should count. Like you humanizing them
 
Duke has relaxed COVID-19 restrictions due to the low prevalence of cases on campus, according to a Wednesday evening email.

Private parties and events hosted by student organizations are no longer limited to 50 people, according to the email. Additionally, indoor seating capacity is being increased at most on-campus dining locations.

Masks are now recommended rather than required in “semi-public residential spaces,” including common rooms and laundry rooms. Masking is also required in “classrooms and other indoor non-residential spaces.”

Duke reported 26 COVID-19 cases from Sept. 27 to Oct. 3, with a positivity rate of 0.12%. The email emphasized that these updated guidelines depend on case numbers remaining low.

https://www.dukechronicle.com/artic...rmQL1mgoMiNIZ7ubRJZ8Ajv5f6_ppjJvzc4YhxQA7AkZQ
 
Unborn are definitely children, and they should count. Like you humanizing them

Of course. To me it is especially tragic to read the stories about pregnant women who hesitated about vaccines for whatever reason and ended up dead or losing their babies.
 
Amid persistent concerns that the protection offered by COVID-19 vaccines may be waning, a report released Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention finds that America’s workhorse shot is significantly less effective at preventing severe cases of disease over the long term than many experts had realized.

Data collected from 18 states between March and August suggest the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine reduces the risk of being hospitalized with COVID-19 by 91% in the first four months after receiving the second dose. Beyond 120 days, however, that vaccine efficacy drops to 77%.

Meanwhile, Moderna’s vaccine was 93% effective at reducing the short-term risk of COVID-19 hospitalization and remained 92% effective after 120 days.

https://www.latimes.com/science/sto...Uj-YaNraz0u7SfWlhvnpP84ZsMN_3U3s98-rmoKIqiCpY

The evidence is accumulating that the Moderna is a bit better. They are all godsends. But if you have a Bentley and a Buick, you want to ride the Bentley.
 
With deadlines for health care workers to take coronavirus vaccinations either passed or quickly approaching, only a fraction of those workers across the United States are risking their jobs by not complying.

The consequences that employers warned of are becoming reality.

UCHealth System in Colorado fired 119 people this week. Kaiser Permanente, based in California, has suspended more than 2,200 employees. And 400 workers have resigned from the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit rather than get inoculated.

On Friday, UCHealth, a nonprofit system serving the Rocky Mountain region, sent the last of several email reminders to the 119 employees — 0.5 percent of its work force — who had not received a vaccination or a medical or religious exemption. They had already been removed from weekend schedules and were notified this week of their termination.

“Certainly we would have liked 100 percent compliance,” Dan Weaver, the vice president of communications, said in an interview on Wednesday. He said that the terminated employees had been “encouraged” to reapply for their positions if they got vaccinated.

Kaiser Permanente, one of the nation’s largest nonprofit health plans, announced its vaccination requirement on Aug. 2, when 78 percent of its work force had already been inoculated. A spokesman said this week that the level had risen to more than 92 percent.

Still, about 1 percent of Kaiser’s work force across the country — approximately 2,200 workers — were put on unpaid administrative leave because they had not met the requirement, the spokesman said. They have until Dec. 1 to get vaccinated to be able to return to work.

The Henry Ford Health System required its employees to comply with a vaccination requirement by last Friday. The system said on Tuesday that 99 percent of its 33,000 employees had been fully vaccinated, were soon to get their second dose or had received medical or religious exemptions.

About 400 employees have resigned over the requirement, but new hires have already made up for the loss, officials said.

At Henry Ford, Bob Riney, the chief operating officer and president of health care operations, said that people who had left the company could reapply once they were inoculated.

“We are doing all we can to keep those doors open,” Mr. Riney told reporters. “Whatever their choice, we wish them the very best and appreciate the years of service they provided our community and organization.”

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/1...ive-updates&label=coronavirus updates&index=0
 
Amid persistent concerns that the protection offered by COVID-19 vaccines may be waning, a report released Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention finds that America’s workhorse shot is significantly less effective at preventing severe cases of disease over the long term than many experts had realized.

Data collected from 18 states between March and August suggest the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine reduces the risk of being hospitalized with COVID-19 by 91% in the first four months after receiving the second dose. Beyond 120 days, however, that vaccine efficacy drops to 77%.

Meanwhile, Moderna’s vaccine was 93% effective at reducing the short-term risk of COVID-19 hospitalization and remained 92% effective after 120 days.

https://www.latimes.com/science/sto...Uj-YaNraz0u7SfWlhvnpP84ZsMN_3U3s98-rmoKIqiCpY

The evidence is accumulating that the Moderna is a bit better. They are all godsends. But if you have a Bentley and a Buick, you want to ride the Bentley.

I remember when they were studying the vaccines we had experts hoping for just a 50% protection rate. We're actually a little spoiled by the effectiveness of the vaccines.
 
I remember when they were studying the vaccines we had experts hoping for just a 50% protection rate. We're actually a little spoiled by the effectiveness of the vaccines.

Between the vaccines and the Merck pill, we have the tools to largely put this behind us.
 
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