The Coronavirus, not the beer

zitothebrave said:
The fact that you care this much about something that cannot be proven with any amount of accuracy is all I need to know.
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It cannot be proven that accepting hundreds of thousands of infected hosts into a population would increase the spread of said virus?

Is that the position you are going with at this moment?
 
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thethe said:
It cannot be proven that accepting hundreds of thousands of infected hosts into a population would increase the spread of said virus?

Is that the position you are going with at this moment?
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You can't prove the amount of people allowed in who were infected and exposed to the population. You're just wildly speculating, like usual.
 
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thethe said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/18-percent-migrant-families-leaving-border-patrol-custody-tested-positive-n1276244

Here is a source you won't mock.

How many people do think are actually coming across the border monthly?

Again - I'm now wondering if you understand basic math.
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So yes you have no way of quantifying it. Got it.

Here's a hint, you don't know how many people cross the border monthly. You don't know how many people in that facility got it from being in that facility. You're projecting on non-real numbers.
 
zitothebrave said:
So yes you have no way of quantifying it. Got it.

Here's a hint, you don't know how many people cross the border monthly. You don't know how many people in that facility got it from being in that facility. You're projecting on non-real numbers.
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https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...ppening-at-the-u-s-mexico-border-in-7-charts/

Another source you won't mock.

But encounters at the southwest border rebounded sharply in fiscal 2021 and ultimately eclipsed the previous annual high recorded in fiscal 2000, according to recently published data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), the federal agency that encompasses the Border Patrol.

Any time Zito you want to just bow out of this conversation please do so. You're an embarrassment.

Hundreds of thousands of infected migrants went to the South this past year and spread COVID. Its plain as day.
 
Jaw said:
Our pediatrician office has something like a dozen doctors. The one we saw yesterday said the vast majority of cases they are seeing are vaccinated.
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I was fully vaxxed when I got it... pretty much everyone I know personally who's gotten it over the past 3-5 months is vaccinated... I think its clear that it doesn't work like it was sold to us.

Also, CNN's headlines are just downright BAD "Coronavirus Finds New Niche: Kids"

If you actually read the article it basically says kids are getting it but not getting that sick... so what the hell is the point of posting that in huge caps on your front page? I swear.

The fear porn is totally real, reckless, and freaking stupid. Kids who don't need to be in the hospital are being taken to the hospital because of this fear porn. That's where the overcrowding of hospitals is coming from.

I hope everything goes well for you and Tapate and families... it didn't make my kids very sick at all but it kicked my ass pretty good.
 
thethe said:
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...ppening-at-the-u-s-mexico-border-in-7-charts/

Another source you won't mock.

But encounters at the southwest border rebounded sharply in fiscal 2021 and ultimately eclipsed the previous annual high recorded in fiscal 2000, according to recently published data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), the federal agency that encompasses the Border Patrol.

Any time Zito you want to just bow out of this conversation please do so. You're an embarrassment.
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Don't ask him to bow out. This **** is entertaining.
 
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thethe said:
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...ppening-at-the-u-s-mexico-border-in-7-charts/

Another source you won't mock.

But encounters at the southwest border rebounded sharply in fiscal 2021 and ultimately eclipsed the previous annual high recorded in fiscal 2000, according to recently published data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), the federal agency that encompasses the Border Patrol.

Any time Zito you want to just bow out of this conversation please do so. You're an embarrassment.
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Holy **** you have no reading comprehension skills.
 
zbhargrove said:
I was fully vaxxed when I got it... pretty much everyone I know personally who's gotten it over the past 3-5 months is vaccinated... I think its clear that it doesn't work like it was sold to us.

Also, CNN's headlines are just downright BAD "Coronavirus Finds New Niche: Kids"

If you actually read the article it basically says kids are getting it but not getting that sick... so what the hell is the point of posting that in huge caps on your front page? I swear.

The fear porn is totally real, reckless, and freaking stupid. Kids who don't need to be in the hospital are being taken to the hospital because of this fear porn. That's where the overcrowding of hospitals is coming from.

I hope everything goes well for you and Tapate and families... it didn't make my kids very sick at all but it kicked my ass pretty good.
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You can see the general public starting to get wise....
 
Garmel said:
I think he's going with that many were expelled. However, that doesn't stop the spread when being contained or examined.
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These encounters are a proxy of the actual border crossings.

Zito is just completely lost on this subject that he doesn't think hundreds of thousands of infected migrants came into the country the past two years, specially Southern states.
 
thethe said:
These encounters are a proxy of the actual border crossings.

Zito is just completely lost on this subject that he doesn't think hundreds of thousands of infected migrants came into the country the past two years, specially Southern states.
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You have to remember the most math he's ever dealt with is counting change at his future FIL's business. I doubt he's taken a stat class.
 
thethe said:
You can see the general public starting to get wise....
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Some of your takes still drive me absolutely crazy, but I have to admit you've been correct on a number of big points regarding the virus and media handling of it. I think you got lucky spit balling on a bunch of it because we just simply didn't really know much about the virus for a long time (I still don't think we have a clue about most of its characteristics). And I'm not willing to go as far as you on some of the more out there conspiracy ideas and election stuff. I don't think there's enough competence available on either side to accomplish something like that.
 
zbhargrove said:
Some of your takes still drive me absolutely crazy, but I have to admit you've been correct on a number of big points regarding the virus and media handling of it. I think you got lucky spit balling on a bunch of it because we just simply didn't really know much about the virus for a long time (I still don't think we have a clue about most of its characteristics). And I'm not willing to go as far as you on some of the more out there conspiracy ideas and election stuff. I don't think there's enough competence available on either side to accomplish something like that.
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glad to see there are some critical thinkers left... a welcome sign
 
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sturg33 said:
glad to see there are some critical thinkers left... a welcome sign
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The most glaring thing that is making my head spin is the crew that went from "I'll never take a vaccine produced under Trump's watch" to "people who don't take the vaccine are worst people in the world"

Politics in health is an absolute disaster. Can we please get someone from a third party to get some traction and get rid of the two dumbest parties in American history?
 
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