yeezus
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Attacks lodged against Trump in the past 24 hours. I think you can add at least one more to that list, too.
also known as: reporting facts.
poor donald!
The Don
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also known as: reporting facts.
poor donald!
yeezus
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"In the clip, Trump asks one of the 10-year-old girls if she’s “going up the escalator.” When the girl replies, “yeah,” Trump turns to the camera and says: “I am going to be dating her in 10 years. Can you believe it?”"
Guy is talking about having sex with a 10-year old. Holy ****. She's 10. Why is his FIRST thought sexual?
Guy is talking about having sex with a 10-year old. Holy ****. She's 10. Why is his FIRST thought sexual?
yeezus
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"Trump’s daughter Ivanka served as co-host of the 1997 [Miss Teen USA] pageant — his first as owner — when she was 15.
Ms Billado said she told Ivanka Trump at the time that her dad had entered the room while the girls were changing.
"Yeah, he does that,” Ms Billado said Ivanka responded."
Ms Billado said she told Ivanka Trump at the time that her dad had entered the room while the girls were changing.
"Yeah, he does that,” Ms Billado said Ivanka responded."
yeezus
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“Ivanka, what’s the favorite thing you have in common with your father,” Williams asks.
“Either real estate, or golf,” Ivanka replies.
“Donald?” Williams prompts.
“Well, I was going to say sex, but I can’t relate that to—” he trails off, gesturing broadly at the woman sitting next to him (his daughter).
“Either real estate, or golf,” Ivanka replies.
“Donald?” Williams prompts.
“Well, I was going to say sex, but I can’t relate that to—” he trails off, gesturing broadly at the woman sitting next to him (his daughter).
Runnin
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His Christian supporters deserve to burn in Hell for Eternity. Just sayin'.
I realize that you don't like Donald Trump, and that's understandable, but I'm surprised you can't (or won't) see this for exactly what it is.
Did you read the NYT article? There isn't a single fact in the piece. It's pure conjecture ... and I'm not exaggerating. There is no corroboration. None.
yeezus
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wtf? you're a terrible human being. can you answer how in the **** someone saying "i grab women's vaginas whenever i want because i'm a celebrity" isn't advocating for, admitting to, and bragging about sexual assault? to be clear: if someone grabs a women without their consent, is it sexual assault to you, or not? i've been in plenty of locker rooms, with friends and with strangers, and never once have heard someone brag about sexual assaults they've committed.
yeah, if i heard a guy bragging about sexually assaulting someone, i'd say something to them. but i've never needed to, because i've never heard it, because normal people don't brag about sexual assault even when talking about women.
i guess i'm just not a "man" for not being cool with brags about sexual assault. and i guess i'm not a "man" for thinking it's ****ing weird to make a suggestive comment to a ten year old. and i guess i'm not a "man" because i wouldn't walk in on 15-year olds (or anyone, at any age) when i knew they were changing (including, apparently, my daughter). the defense for this stuff is disgusting. donald is a perv and i can now assume you are, too.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
it's tough to prove sexual assault, especially that long after the fact. based on his bragging about doing it (literally admitting that he does this sort of thing - are you missing that somehow? are you dismissing it? do you think he said he does it but doesn't actually do it?) i'm comfortable with thinking he did it. i hope to god he didn't, but based on his overall **** character, it unfortunately seems likely.
Talking out of both sides of your mouth?
For all my Southside niggas that know me best
I feel like me and Taylor might still have sex
Why? I made that bitch famous (God damn)
I made that bitch famous
For all the girls that got dick from Kanye West
If you see 'em in the streets give 'em Kanye's best
Why? They mad they ain't famous (God damn)
yeezus
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Hm, which part of that is sexual assault?
Did he say he was going to grab Taylor Swift by her pussy if he wanted to? when did he brag about sexual assault?
You're also comparing your presidential choice to kanye west - enough said.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
Hawk, do you think him saying he grabs women's vaginas and kisses them without consent is just a joke? do you not think he actually does that? do you speak like that? do your friends? have you made jokes about grabbing a woman's vagina without consent? or have you actually done that?
i talk about sex all the time with my friends. even my women friends. and it can get graphic. but consensual sex isn't sexual assault. and talking about it isn't, either. ****ing gross.
i talk about sex all the time with my friends. even my women friends. and it can get graphic. but consensual sex isn't sexual assault. and talking about it isn't, either. ****ing gross.
No.
Do you know the great lengths CBS and Dan Rather went to when they ran the GWB National Guard story? I mean, they went back over 30 years to get multiple sources on the record and to unearth evidentiary documents. God, I mean, look at how far we've fallen. Remember when that was considered disqualifying behavior for a candidate?
The NYT story is a hit piece and irresponsible journalism.
That it conveniently leaked right before prime time news, with multiple other hearsay fabrications (literally all within a ~2 hour period) is clearly an orchestrated smear campaign designed to sway people who are too lazy to think for themselves.
Not at all designed to smother yesterday's Wikileaks revelations. Not at all.
yeezus
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yeah, people who think for themselves are definitely voting for donald trump. i expected more from you than to defend a serial (ADMITTED) sexual assaulter. clearly he brings out the worst in everyone.
It's not sexual assault. I guess that's kind of my point. But referring to women as bitches and bragging about how much dick you have gotten (and can still get) because you are 'famous' is disgustingly pigheaded. You listen to this kind of music and you support this artist (I'm assuming, based on previous posts). It's just curious to me that you have chosen to extrapolate a sinister meaning from the relative innocuity of Trump's words but turn a blind eye to it in another setting.
Does it really matter if I've been witness to, or participated in, that kind of talk?
But to answer your question: yes, I've heard it, and I've heard worse. Dude, I've been present (multiple times) when jokes about committing rape were made, comments like 'quick, get the rufilin' when an attractive girl sits at the bar. I sat on the honor board of my University and I often saw cases where those jokes morphed into reality. Sex was commonly discussed in the locker rooms I was apart of. In fact, my baseball coach in High School is currently sitting in prison for raping a 14 year old girl at my school. He even told me my sister was hot (she was underage at the time, as was I) when he was driving me home from practice one day.
Following the Derrick Rose trial? He claimed yesterday that the NBA trains rookies to take condoms home after having sex with strangers.
But no, Donald Trump is the enemy (the serial assaulter, the rapist, the pervert, the paedophile). Not our utterly cavalier cultural attitudes toward sex.
So, no I'm not dismissing his comments. And, no, like you, I wouldn't be surprised if he actually did perpetrate sexual assault. But I'm highly, highly skeptical of the cases being circulated in the American media right now. I believe it's misinformation distributed for political purposes and designed to distract otherwise reasonable people from the damning evidence spewing out of the Wikileaks documents. Something doesn't add up here - and all it takes is a few moments of research to determine that much, at the very least.
And this is coming from somebody who actually subscribes to the New York Times and reads it every day. I'm not one of those whackadoos who believes the 'liberal' media is a Jewish conspiracy.
57Brave
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from this morning NY Times:
.............
This has been the most disgusting presidential campaign in history.
But, Donald Trump has done us a great public service:
He has brought down the Bush dynasty.
He laid to rest the lie that W Bush "kept us safe."
He exposed Ted Cruz for the hypocrite he is.
He is making Paul Ryan twist in the wind, as Ryan refuses to campaign with him, but still won't withdraw his vote.
He showed us, not by design, how egregious and unfair our tax code is and how it's totally slanted towards the wealthy in this country.
He brought to the forefront the misogyny and sexism of the GOP, as well as the sexism many women have to deal with in the workplace.
He might just make the Senate go to the Democrats, something that was not even a possibility months ago.
He might cause the Republicans to rebuild their party into something similar to the party my Father was a member of for decades.
See, there is a silver lining.
.............
This has been the most disgusting presidential campaign in history.
But, Donald Trump has done us a great public service:
He has brought down the Bush dynasty.
He laid to rest the lie that W Bush "kept us safe."
He exposed Ted Cruz for the hypocrite he is.
He is making Paul Ryan twist in the wind, as Ryan refuses to campaign with him, but still won't withdraw his vote.
He showed us, not by design, how egregious and unfair our tax code is and how it's totally slanted towards the wealthy in this country.
He brought to the forefront the misogyny and sexism of the GOP, as well as the sexism many women have to deal with in the workplace.
He might just make the Senate go to the Democrats, something that was not even a possibility months ago.
He might cause the Republicans to rebuild their party into something similar to the party my Father was a member of for decades.
See, there is a silver lining.