The Obesity Thread

It's really shocking how completely wrong the medical community was for so long about the causes of obesity and diabetes.

Low carb and fasting works for me but I still have my sweet tooth. I can do without bread and flour products, even beer, but ice cream and chocolate is where I draw the line.

Science and public health officials sold out to the sugar industry for money

But we should blindly trust them
 
Science and public health officials sold out to the sugar industry for money

But we should blindly trust them

Countless examples of how the academic and scientific community are nothing more than lapdogs for the donor class.
 
Checking back in. It’s been a whirlwind for me since I last posted. In early May I interviewed for and received a promotion that relocated me to Indiana. Pretty much every day off since then has been either moving or unpacking.

First, the good news: I’ve been trying to get promoted to a Store Manager position with Lowe’s for about a year, and it finally happened, which has been great for my mental and emotional health. The new salary finally gives me some financial stability which will help with the weight loss challenge, and I moved somewhere with pretty much everything you could need for activities to do and healthy food options.

On the other hand, I’ve not held myself accountable to make healthy choices. While my job is quite active, that’s been about it for the last two months. I haven’t completely gone back to my initial weight, but I’ve gained about 6 pounds back and my diet has been trash. Currently on a short vacation, then getting back into it next week.
 
Checking back in. It’s been a whirlwind for me since I last posted. In early May I interviewed for and received a promotion that relocated me to Indiana. Pretty much every day off since then has been either moving or unpacking.

First, the good news: I’ve been trying to get promoted to a Store Manager position with Lowe’s for about a year, and it finally happened, which has been great for my mental and emotional health. The new salary finally gives me some financial stability which will help with the weight loss challenge, and I moved somewhere with pretty much everything you could need for activities to do and healthy food options.

On the other hand, I’ve not held myself accountable to make healthy choices. While my job is quite active, that’s been about it for the last two months. I haven’t completely gone back to my initial weight, but I’ve gained about 6 pounds back and my diet has been trash. Currently on a short vacation, then getting back into it next week.

Congratulations. Job changes are pretty disruptive to things like eating and exercise habits. You gotta find a new groove that works with the new job. I lucked out once with the simple realization that I should never take the elevator in the new building where I worked.
 
Yep- make small solid choices that combined will get you where you want to be.

Rome was not built in a day. Progress is also not linear. As long as the long term trend lines go where you want them to, you can get there
 
Yep- make small solid choices that combined will get you where you want to be.

Rome was not built in a day. Progress is also not linear. As long as the long term trend lines go where you want them to, you can get there

Joined a lifetime by my new place. Got lots of ways to get back swole
 
Intermittent fasting and low carb is the best thing I've ever tried - actually enjoying food more. I'm almost back to my college weight after only two months of a pretty intense regimen. Quit beer but now enjoying a little whiskey a couple times a week. So many great gurus on youtube showing the way: Jason Fung, Dr. Sten Ekberg, motivationaldoc, Thomas DeLauer, etc.
 
I’m a binge eater. I only eat once a day but I can never get full. I’ve tried this diet and that diet, but I never really see the results so I quit them. About a month ago I went to the doctor for the first time in over a year. I weighed 437. I’m 6’7’’ so even though it’s horrible, it doesn’t look like I weigh that much. I don’t drink at all. About two weeks ago I saw a YouTube documentary about a guitar player from 3 doors down, who got fat, saw the light and lost over the 120 pounds. So I shot him an Instagram message about weight loss. He replied and we talked for over 2 hours about what he eats, why he eats it etc. that night. he’s also certified nutritionist he told me that with my size and height I was eating about 3700 calories a day just maintain my weight He told me that if I cut 1,000 calories a day, I’ll lose 4 pounds every two weeks. I started walking a lot more and being more active. For the past 12 days I haven’t gone above 2300 calories once. I know that’s still a lot of calories to most of you to eat, but compared to where I was two weeks ago I’ll stay at that goal until I have no problems or struggles with it. Than I’ll drop 100 calories etc. I know it’s not much but I’m actually proud of myself.
 
I’m a binge eater. I only eat once a day but I can never get full. I’ve tried this diet and that diet, but I never really see the results so I quit them. About a month ago I went to the doctor for the first time in over a year. I weighed 437. I’m 6’7’’ so even though it’s horrible, it doesn’t look like I weigh that much. I don’t drink at all. About two weeks ago I saw a YouTube documentary about a guitar player from 3 doors down, who got fat, saw the light and lost over the 120 pounds. So I shot him an Instagram message about weight loss. He replied and we talked for over 2 hours about what he eats, why he eats it etc. that night. he’s also certified nutritionist he told me that with my size and height I was eating about 3700 calories a day just maintain my weight He told me that if I cut 1,000 calories a day, I’ll lose 4 pounds every two weeks. I started walking a lot more and being more active. For the past 12 days I haven’t gone above 2300 calories once. I know that’s still a lot of calories to most of you to eat, but compared to where I was two weeks ago I’ll stay at that goal until I have no problems or struggles with it. Than I’ll drop 100 calories etc. I know it’s not much but I’m actually proud of myself.

That's awesome, man. Keep it up and don't let anything discourage you!

I'm not a nutritionist or doctor (maybe a good thing), so ignore this if you want. Some say all calories are the same but I've learned that high carb and sugar calories are worse than protein and fat calories. They spike your insulin which over time leads to insulin resistance. I won't try to explain "insulin resistance" here, but it's not good. It's the main cause of diet related disease. Most seem to have to get off the high carb diet in order to level out the insulin and kill the hunger pangs.

2300 calories a day isn't so much. My maintain number is supposed to be 2500 a day, but I think it's lower.

White flour and sugar are poison and should taxed until the food industry finds healthier and cheaper alternatives.
 
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I’m a binge eater. I only eat once a day but I can never get full. I’ve tried this diet and that diet, but I never really see the results so I quit them. About a month ago I went to the doctor for the first time in over a year. I weighed 437. I’m 6’7’’ so even though it’s horrible, it doesn’t look like I weigh that much. I don’t drink at all. About two weeks ago I saw a YouTube documentary about a guitar player from 3 doors down, who got fat, saw the light and lost over the 120 pounds. So I shot him an Instagram message about weight loss. He replied and we talked for over 2 hours about what he eats, why he eats it etc. that night. he’s also certified nutritionist he told me that with my size and height I was eating about 3700 calories a day just maintain my weight He told me that if I cut 1,000 calories a day, I’ll lose 4 pounds every two weeks. I started walking a lot more and being more active. For the past 12 days I haven’t gone above 2300 calories once. I know that’s still a lot of calories to most of you to eat, but compared to where I was two weeks ago I’ll stay at that goal until I have no problems or struggles with it. Than I’ll drop 100 calories etc. I know it’s not much but I’m actually proud of myself.
Hell yeah.

Don’t eat things that are packaged. Nuts, fruits, meats, etc

Your gonna drop plenty and start pushing those walks further and further as you are able
 
I go to a Japanese spa about once a week for the jet jacuzzis, the cold baths and the saunas. It's surprising how many pot-bellied and obese looking men there are. The American diet and way of eating is poisoning another society. 30 years ago it was rare to see an overweight Japanese person. Not anymore.
 
https://reason.com/2021/09/23/21-federal-agencies-manage-200-different-diet-related-programs-leading-to-overlap-and-chaos/

The federal government seems concerned that 42 percent of American adults are obese, but apparently not concerned enough to have formed a competent, coordinated plan of attack.

A new Government Accountability Office (GAO) report publicly released this week found that 21 federal agencies oversee 200 different efforts focused on research, improving crops' nutritional quality, health education and food access initiatives, and regulating grocery stores and restaurants. The GAO admits that, upon study, these nearly two-dozen agencies "have not effectively managed fragmentation of diet-related efforts or the potential for overlap and duplication," which leads to your taxpayer dollars going to waste.

Nestled within the report are also some nuggets from discontented agency officials:

"Officials from three of the 16 agencies we interviewed mentioned federal efforts that work at cross-purposes or have conflicting outcomes. For example, officials from one agency said that HHS and USDA have not effectively aligned their missions in public health and agriculture. These officials said that USDA agricultural subsidies have created economic incentives for increased corn production. This has led to lower prices and increased consumption of corn syrup in Americans' diet. However, HHS public health goals call for reduced consumption of sugars such as corn syrup."

This is all a pretty big admission of failure on the part of government bureaucrats and regulators. "There really is no overarching federal strategy to guide the government's efforts to improve Americans' diets," says Steve Morris on the GAO's companion podcast. Programs "work independently, without a common purpose or goal" and sometimes even overlap with each other, wasting resources and "fail[ing] to focus on the areas that really need attention."

This failure comes at an enormous cost: "In 2018, spending to treat cardiovascular diseases, cancer, and diabetes accounted for 26 percent of the approximately $1.5 trillion in total health care spending for U.S. adults," notes the podcast. And the pandemic has put less-healthy Americans at even greater risk of dying than before, though that's thankfully mitigated with the proliferation of vaccines. "People who contracted COVID-19 who reported underlying health conditions were six times more likely to be hospitalized and 12 times more likely to die," compared to those without diet-related chronic health conditions, says the GAO.
 
Anyone that has any clue of what they are talking about would know we could solve the majority of our health care issues if we strongly encouraged people to stay in shape and not celebrate obesity
 
https://reason.com/2021/09/23/21-federal-agencies-manage-200-different-diet-related-programs-leading-to-overlap-and-chaos/

The federal government seems concerned that 42 percent of American adults are obese, but apparently not concerned enough to have formed a competent, coordinated plan of attack.

A new Government Accountability Office (GAO) report publicly released this week found that 21 federal agencies oversee 200 different efforts focused on research, improving crops' nutritional quality, health education and food access initiatives, and regulating grocery stores and restaurants. The GAO admits that, upon study, these nearly two-dozen agencies "have not effectively managed fragmentation of diet-related efforts or the potential for overlap and duplication," which leads to your taxpayer dollars going to waste.

Nestled within the report are also some nuggets from discontented agency officials:

"Officials from three of the 16 agencies we interviewed mentioned federal efforts that work at cross-purposes or have conflicting outcomes. For example, officials from one agency said that HHS and USDA have not effectively aligned their missions in public health and agriculture. These officials said that USDA agricultural subsidies have created economic incentives for increased corn production. This has led to lower prices and increased consumption of corn syrup in Americans' diet. However, HHS public health goals call for reduced consumption of sugars such as corn syrup."

This is all a pretty big admission of failure on the part of government bureaucrats and regulators. "There really is no overarching federal strategy to guide the government's efforts to improve Americans' diets," says Steve Morris on the GAO's companion podcast. Programs "work independently, without a common purpose or goal" and sometimes even overlap with each other, wasting resources and "fail[ing] to focus on the areas that really need attention."

This failure comes at an enormous cost: "In 2018, spending to treat cardiovascular diseases, cancer, and diabetes accounted for 26 percent of the approximately $1.5 trillion in total health care spending for U.S. adults," notes the podcast. And the pandemic has put less-healthy Americans at even greater risk of dying than before, though that's thankfully mitigated with the proliferation of vaccines. "People who contracted COVID-19 who reported underlying health conditions were six times more likely to be hospitalized and 12 times more likely to die," compared to those without diet-related chronic health conditions, says the GAO.

Abolish?
 
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