The Trump Presidency

thethe said:
I'm fine with any issue that wants to be protested especially something like police brutality. What I do mind is having it shoved down my throat by using a game tens of millions of people love as a conduit. Nobody is tuning in to watch protests. Quite the contrary - People are tuning out because of the protests.
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I'd rather watch guys kneel during a 2 minute song than see the looting, destruction, and general lawlessness of past protests.
 
bravesnumberone said:
No it is acceptable. The problem is those voicing their dislike are trying to delegitimize the players by calling them "son of a bitch" or "rich, spoiled, overpaid athlete" like they shouldn't have an opinion on anything.

It's all, "You hate America and our freedom." "You hate cops." "Shut up and play the game." "Respect the flag." It's an overwhelmingly white conservative crowd doing this. The message is clear and it's we're not the least bit interested in what you have to say about anything.

The people being the loudest over this shocking disparaging of the sacred American flag shrug when Confederate flags and Nazi flags are casually waved around.

Very fine people vs. sons of bitches.

The message is clear.
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That sounds like racial stereotyping. Isn't that one of the behaviors by the police that is being protested?
 
In other news:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/tree-company-pay-record-fine-immigration-practices-50158257

A suburban Philadelphia tree-trimming company whose orange trucks are a familiar sight in communities throughout the United States will pay a record fine after pleading guilty in a scheme to employ thousands of people in the country illegally.?

Asplundh Tree Expert Co. of Willow Grove, a utility contractor best known for pruning and removing trees around power lines, pleaded guilty Thursday to a federal criminal charge and was ordered to pay a total of $95 million. Prosecutors called it the largest monetary penalty ever levied in an immigration case.

The U.S. attorney's office in Philadelphia said Asplundh employed thousands of unauthorized workers between 2010 and 2014, its top management remaining "willfully blind" while lower-level supervisors hired people they knew were in the country illegally. In some cases, the supervisors rehired workers who'd already been let go by the company due to their immigration status.

I love it. If you really want to stop illegal aliens from entering the country, you need to stop the incentive to enter the country. A $95 million fine is a good way to do that.
 
Jaw said:
That sounds like racial stereotyping. Isn't that one of the behaviors by the police that is being protested?
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The fact that you bolded that one statement from the quote and tried to frame it in that context is further proof of the point I'm making.
 
Jaw said:
In other news:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/tree-company-pay-record-fine-immigration-practices-50158257

A suburban Philadelphia tree-trimming company whose orange trucks are a familiar sight in communities throughout the United States will pay a record fine after pleading guilty in a scheme to employ thousands of people in the country illegally.?

Asplundh Tree Expert Co. of Willow Grove, a utility contractor best known for pruning and removing trees around power lines, pleaded guilty Thursday to a federal criminal charge and was ordered to pay a total of $95 million. Prosecutors called it the largest monetary penalty ever levied in an immigration case.

The U.S. attorney's office in Philadelphia said Asplundh employed thousands of unauthorized workers between 2010 and 2014, its top management remaining "willfully blind" while lower-level supervisors hired people they knew were in the country illegally. In some cases, the supervisors rehired workers who'd already been let go by the company due to their immigration status.

I love it. If you really want to stop illegal aliens from entering the country, you need to stop the incentive to enter the country. A $95 million fine is a good way to do that.
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I agree that you have to take a hard line on companies that do it. This was one of the ideas behind immigration reform efforts that a sizable amount of Republicans were so against.
 
As an aside to the NFL thing, it's worth mentioning that a majority of Americans, per Gallup, contemporaneously thought that lunch-counter sit-ins, bus boycotts, and MLK's March on Washington were counterproductive to the movement for equal rights for all. Those things are now remembered as landmark moments, and rightfully so, but it's precisely because they were brave and cut against the grain of majority public opinion at the time.
 
thethe said:
It is being shoved down our throat because the coverage of the game also includes the protests and how awful the president is.

This is not a political event but it is being turned into one.
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Playing the anthem at all makes it political.
 
Probably. But it would look really bad for the guy who campaigned on draining the swamp to let Price jet to dinner with his kids on the taxpayers dime.
 
Chris Murphy‏Verified account @ChrisMurphyCT 5h5 hours ago

It's worth asking why we spend $600 billion a year on the military if we can't get more than 5000 troops and 50 helicopters to Puerto Rico.
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and this Jaw is why you don't take Trump Administration at their word:
on anything

John Harwood‏Verified account @JohnJHarwood 7h7 hours ago

Trump says 2nd Q GDP growth of 3.1% is "a number that hasn't been hit for a long time." It was hit 8 times under Obama most recently in 2015
 
this was Wednesday

Christina Wilkie‏Verified account @christinawilkie

Trump just said 6 times that Graham-Cassidy failed because “there was a senator in the hospital.”
There are no senators in the hospital.
 
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