The Trump Presidency

[Hawk]

 

[cajunrevenge]

So, who is this Gorsuch fellow? Tell me about him.

Long story short he is another ahole who thinks the government owns us.

 

[Julio3000]

I hope this qualified nominee gets exactly the same consideration that the last qualified nominee got.

 

[Oklahomahawk]

Long story short he is another ahole who thinks the government owns us.

Well that is a long story short, I'll give you that.

 

[Oklahomahawk]

I hope this qualified nominee gets exactly the same consideration that the last qualified nominee got.

I don't know this guy, but can you imagine how pissed the Repubs, especially the talk radio crowd will be when the Dems act like the spoiled brats the Repubs acted about the last guy? They absolutely won't be able to ever remember through the annals of history when elected officials ever acted like the Dems will be acting. It'll be shameful and their convenient teenager style selective memory will be aghast at how sorry the Dems are.

SSDD.

 

[Oklahomahawk]

That's pretty far to the right there, fellow Hawk. That doesn't necessarily make him a bad choice but if you're further to the right than Scalia that does make you pretty far to the freakin' right.

 

[Runnin]

I may be a naive idealist but I truly believe that the greatest weapon America has against Terrorism (capital T) is remaining 'the shining star on a hill', being the symbol of Freedom, Justice and Inclusiveness for the world. But unfortunately, that also makes it the target of perpetual terrorism (small t), which unfortunately will not be and cannot be eradicated anytime in the foreseeable future.

Trump's immigration ban does NOTHING to decrease the number of potentially dangerous people in the country and likely is going to create homegrown terrorists. It's just a short term, high profile police action that damages America's image and thus weakens it from the inside --- which btw, IS EXACTLY the result Terrorism hopes to achieve.

 

[cajunrevenge]

The goal of 9/11 was to provoke us into invading the middle east, they won a long time ago.

 

[goldfly]

I hope this qualified nominee gets exactly the same consideration that the last qualified nominee got.

 

[goldfly]

The goal of 9/11 was to provoke us into invading the middle east, they won a long time ago.

****, i don't even think that was the goal. they knew that would happen

the rest of this charade was the long game/con and we fell for it

turning us against each other and shaking the foundation of our republic now.

 

[goldfly]

awesome, right of Scalia

this ****ing country, i tell ya

 

[Runnin]

On the other hand, there's this argument:

America is mostly a Christian country. We don't understand Islam and certainly not the ideological battle among its followers. Therefore we do not want to create big communities of Muslims which will, by definition, become a breeding ground for future soldiers of this thousand year old conflict.

We also don't want this war within the Muslim community played out on American streets, nor its sister war against the West.

There's also the treatment of women to consider. America civil laws supersedes all religion, period.

In the end it is our house. Although it is our policy and goal to welcome all law-abiding peoples, regardless of religion, it's difficult and even impossible to determine whether Muslim immigrants are moderate or radical, especially when moderate families can easily produce radical sons and daughters.

For these reasons and more, we choose to be highly restrictive and selective of all potential Muslims seeking entry, regardless of country of origin.

That's not the most unreasonable argument I've ever heard.

 

[goldfly]

America is mostly a Christian country. We don't understand Islam

ugh, they worship the same god with different stories on how to get there

it's formed off the sons of Abraham

they are way more similar than either wants to admit

 

[BedellBrave]

Runnin, is it true that Japan bans all Muslims from immigrating? Not sure if I have that right or not.

 

[Runnin]

Honestly, I am still having trouble conceiving that we elected Donald Trump. Sometimes it takes a few seconds to get my bearings when reading the news.

silent like a cancer grows

 

[Runnin]

Runnin, is it true that Japan bans all Muslims from immigrating? Not sure if I have that right or not.

I don't believe so. I know and have met plenty.

But immigration is strict and the enforcement is serious. I almost got deported last year over a typo that wasn't even my fault. I overstayed the visa date on my Passport while my Foreigner Registration Card had a different date. They made me jump through hoops for a few weeks and in the end I had to admit that it was MY fault and that I should be deported under proper execution of the law, only to skate by at the very last step by special pardon. It felt very Draconian. They kept referring to me in the meetings and on documents as "the suspect" (yogisha), like "the perp" in a crime show.

 

[Runnin]

ugh, they worship the same god with different stories on how to get there

it's formed off the sons of Abraham

they are way more similar than either wants to admit

You and I know that, but for most it may as well be worshiping an alien from the dark side of Pluto. Different tribe, different world.

 

[NinersSBChamps]

awesome, right of Scalia

this ****ing country, i tell ya

Go north of the border if you must.

 

[goldfly]

Go north of the border if you must.

if i ever give up on this liberal experiment called the USA

i'm not going to Canada

I'm going here:

 

[Oklahomahawk]

if i ever give up on this liberal experiment called the USA

i'm not going to Canada

I'm going here:

Which part/area if you don't mind my asking? Also, whereabouts did they film the Hobbit/LOTR flicks?