The Trump Presidency

sturg33 said:
jpx has been a consistent critic.

The rest of you will give your lip service when called out, but are foaming at the mouth of any piece of "evidence" on DJT to take him down, when quite frankly, to date, he has been a much less destructive President than the god
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Calling Obama "the god" shows how much it hurts you that he was such a solid President. Since you are incapable of being objective, for whatever reason, you have to exaggerate with sarcasm. FWIW, people on the left never felt that way about him, although now by comparison, he does appear to be set way up in the clouds.

Trump hasn't been destructive?

He has purposely tried to destroy the infrastructure of our govt. with his obscene cabinet appointments. He's attacked all our traditional allies and dropped our standing in the world. He has publicly and brazenly sullied the Presidency like no other President in our time.

Yes, Obama was a god of efficiency and decorum, by comparison.
 
How does one quantify dropping our standing in the world?

I'm glad someone is trying to shake up he government. Its an absolute cesspool of inefficiency.
 
Runnin said:
Calling Obama "the god" shows how much it hurts you that he was such a solid President. Since you are incapable of being objective, for whatever reason, you have to exaggerate with sarcasm. FWIW, people on the left never felt that way about him, although now by comparison, he does appear to be set way up in the clouds.

Trump hasn't been destructive?

He has purposely tried to destroy the infrastructure of our govt. with his obscene cabinet appointments. He's attacked all our traditional allies and dropped our standing in the world. He has publicly and brazenly sullied the Presidency like no other President in our time.

Yes, Obama was a god of efficiency and decorum, by comparison.
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I think it's a very fair criticism that Trump has had a horrific image and we very well lose respect around the world (although it seems most world leaders enjoy meeting with him).

But from a policy standpoint, he hasn't done anything that's actually negatively impacted us (yet).

Obama was a horrible president. Worse than Bush - who I thought was one of the worst of all time
 
thethe said:
For me it's that we are prioritizung bringing peoplease here who most likely will be self sufficient. Economic security is the most important factor in security.

In addition, the less low skilled work imported will provide Americans who are struggling more a chance to advance themselves in life thereby requiring the population to subsiduze a lesser percentage of the population.
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WHAT? I thought you were afraid of Muslim terrorists.

You think there aren't any tech-savvy and well-educated terrorists?
 
Its fascinating what LIberals/Democrats are able to get away with in todays political climate. How many more e-mails did HRC not turn over after being subpoenaed? Any other devices that she destroyed? Any other servers which were wiped with a 'cloth'?
 
Why does DJT get a pass from you "righties"? Nobody accuses him of lying!!! He does it on a basis. I guess because he believes himself you all are required to. His a-- is on the grill and frying.
 
How does one quantify dropping our standing in the world?

When leaders around the free world are mocking your President, it's not good.

I'm glad someone is trying to shake up he government. Its an absolute cesspool of inefficiency.

"Shake up" = vague euphemism. Trump's plan is to weaken all departments of govt except the Presidency. "Cesspool of inefficiency" is a rather strong phrase. It seems to ignore that somehow America has produced a pretty good country that offers great freedoms to its citizens while still maintaining the infrastructure of govt. The GOP has been chopping away at it in recent decades, thinking they can create a kind of gated govt for the ones they care about to match the gated communities they live in.
 
VirginiaBrave said:
Why does DJT get a pass from you "righties"? Nobody accuses him of lying!!! He does it on a basis. I guess because he believes himself you all are required to. His a-- is on the grill and frying.
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Why wouldn't his supporters be happy. Unlike most politicians he is fufilling his campaign promises.
 
Runnin said:
How does one quantify dropping our standing in the world?

When leaders around the free world are mocking your President, it's not good.

I'm glad someone is trying to shake up he government. Its an absolute cesspool of inefficiency.

"Shake up" = vague euphemism. Trump's plan is to weaken all departments of govt except the Presidency. "Cesspool of inefficiency" is a rather strong phrase. It seems to ignore that somehow America has produced a pretty good country that offers great freedoms to its citizens while still maintaining the infrastructure of govt. The GOP has been chopping away at it in recent decades, thinking they can create a kind of gated govt for the ones they care about to match the gated communities they live in.
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So what does their 'mocking' do to the US in a quantifiable way? Is there less trade? Is their less cooperation? What exactly does that mean?

The country is in bad shape and has only been propped up because we are stealing from the youth.
 
thethe said:
Its fascinating what LIberals/Democrats are able to get away with in todays political climate. How many more e-mails did HRC not turn over after being subpoenaed? Any other devices that she destroyed? Any other servers which were wiped with a 'cloth'?
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Still crying about Hillary while Trump's impeachable offenses grow daily.

I imagine when Trump finally burns the White House to the ground, thethe and sturg will remind us of the time Obama didn't wipe his feet upon entering.
 
thethe said:
Why wouldn't his supporters be happy. Unlike most politicians he is fufilling his campaign promises.
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His lies will eventually catch up. If HRC were in there and lies were being told so freely the Senate would be adding gallery seats to the impeachment hearings.
 
Runnin said:
Still crying about Hillary while Trump's impeachable offenses grow daily.

I imagine when Trump finally burns the White House to the ground, thethe and sturg will remind us of the time Obama didn't wipe his feet upon entering.
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If crying is another way of saying pointing out how much if a double standard there is in our society then so be it. All of these scandals surrounding the dems will get investigated and they will be revealed as the true corrupt party.
 
Runnin said:
Still crying about Hillary while Trump's impeachable offenses grow daily.

I imagine when Trump finally burns the White House to the ground, thethe and sturg will remind us of the time Obama didn't wipe his feet upon entering.
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lol. They can't stand it the man was the best President of the last 25 years. He wasn't weak he was measured and effective even in the face total obstructionism.
 
VirginiaBrave said:
His lies will eventually catch up. If HRC were in there and lies were being told so freely the Senate would be adding gallery seats to the impeachment hearings.
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Which lies?

Cutting regulation?

Securing our southern border?

Protecting Americans against the importation of potential terrorists?

Jon growth?

Gdp growth?

Immigration reform?

Tax reform?

Which lies that actually impact Americans lives are being told?
 
VirginiaBrave said:
lol. They can't stand it the man was the best President of the last 25 years. He wasn't weak he was measured and effective even in the face total obstructionism.
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He wasn't weak? His foreign policy single handedly destroyed the middle east with a healthy assist the bush who was also a disaster
 
thethe said:
So what does their 'mocking' do to the US in a quantifiable way? Is there less trade? Is their less cooperation? What exactly does that mean?

The country is in bad shape and has only been propped up because we are stealing from the youth.

??? Is this a left field comment about how insurance works or are you becoming a pacifist?
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It means that since our POTUS a liar and an uninformed buffoon, he has little to add to any serious conversation on world policy. But the leading politicians of the world know how to deal with the likes of Trump, as we've seen recently in France. They'll let him jerk their hands this way and that until he falls on his own sword.
 
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