The Trump Presidency

thethe said:
He wasn't weak? His foreign policy single handedly destroyed the middle east with a healthy assist the bush who was also a disaster
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You conveniently ignore that President Obama inherited the task of cleaning the Iraq/Afghanistan blunder. He already had tens of thousands of boots on the ground in several countries and a foreign policy/military machine highly divided about what to do about it. How does one judge him considering that thanks to Bush/Cheney there was not one good way out of the mess?
 
thethe said:
If crying is another way of saying pointing out how much if a double standard there is in our society then so be it. All of these scandals surrounding the dems will get investigated and they will be revealed as the true corrupt party.
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Trump is a Russia dictator wannabe and you care more about . . . what exactly? Debbie Wasserman Schultz?
 
Runnin said:
You conveniently ignore that President Obama inherited the task of cleaning up a major foreign policy blunder. He already had tens of thousands of boots on the ground in several countries and a foreign policy/military machine highly divided about what to do about it. How does one judge him considering that thanks to Bush/Cheney there was not one good way out of the mess?
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ISIS came to life after obama pulled the troops from Iraq. Obama went against his generals and pulled the troops from Iraq after he was warned not to. Isis and thier atrocities is on obama, not bush or Cheney.

Do you overlook that or does it not matter?
 
Runnin said:
Still crying about Hillary while Trump's impeachable offenses grow daily.

I imagine when Trump finally burns the White House to the ground, thethe and sturg will remind us of the time Obama didn't wipe his feet upon entering.
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I'd like to see these impeachable offenses... Can you name the specifics?

But hey, it's 2017... Facts don't matter
 
Krgrecw said:
ISIS came to life after obama pulled the troops from Iraq. Obama went against his generals and pulled the troops from Iraq after he was warned not to. Isis and thier atrocities is on obama, not bush or Cheney.

Do you overlook that or does it not matter?
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ISIS is just a bunch of opportunistic gangs coming together to plunder and attack anyone opposing them. Unless you think American troops should be over there indefinitely getting blown up on a daily basis, taking Sadaam out is what gave rise to the situation. Obama had no choice but to pull the majority of our troops out. Public opinion would have only grown worse, just like it did in Vietnam. Bush/Cheney stuck their dumb noses into that hornets' nest. No other way to see it unless you think we should be charged with policing the country.
 
sturg33 said:
I'd like to see these impeachable offenses... Can you name the specifics?

But hey, it's 2017... Facts don't matter
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I believe Congress decides what's impeachable, but.

Emoluments

Obstruction of Justice

Collusion/Attempted collusion

Lying on a daily basis

Unauthorized air strikes

Dereliction of Duty/Behavior unbecoming to the office (Boy Scout speech)

Being a clear and present danger to American sovereignty

General incompetence and ignorance (Transgender tweets)

Being an unapologetic lobbyist for a known enemy of America

Having multiple private talks with said enemy of America

Being a money laundering operation for wealthy Russian mafia for decades and thus having a huge conflict of interest making his holding of the office of President unacceptable to even the most basic tenents of national security. Donald Trump could not pass a low level security vetting to work at ANY government office and yet he sits in the most powerful position. Problems???
 
i always love finding out what Hannity and Drudge post or talk about once i check twitter to show me what rubbish they are spewing for their lemmings to come spew to the rest of us

the huge sums of money given to the democratic party etc

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VirginiaBrave said:
Well Obama deserves the lionshare of the economic turn around credit. And Trump lies everytime he stands in front of a podium.
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Please educate us what the Obama administration did that set up this economic revival from the past 6 months since he deserves the 'lionshare' of the credit.
 
Runnin said:
It means that since our POTUS a liar and an uninformed buffoon, he has little to add to any serious conversation on world policy. But the leading politicians of the world know how to deal with the likes of Trump, as we've seen recently in France. They'll let him jerk their hands this way and that until he falls on his own sword.
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So you still don't know what that means I see. Just coming up with useless platitudes to show your hatred for Trump.

The US is still leading the way on what to do with North Korea. Has Marcon done anything meaningful to protect the world? He has a disaster to deal with in his own nation because of the failed leftist policies.

I'm not a pacifist. I'm someone who can clearly see that Obama was not able to get an economy working and was able to lead a country into handing out more welfare programs funded by taking out more debt to screw our future.
 
Runnin said:
You conveniently ignore that President Obama inherited the task of cleaning the Iraq/Afghanistan blunder. He already had tens of thousands of boots on the ground in several countries and a foreign policy/military machine highly divided about what to do about it. How does one judge him considering that thanks to Bush/Cheney there was not one good way out of the mess?
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I conveniently ignore it while mentioning it in the post that you quoted?

How about arming the Syrian rebels?
How about going against the advice of general and withdrawing strictly as a polictical move?
How about the overthrow of Gaddafi?
Dealings with China while they completely took advantage of the US with trade and their own advancement within the China sea endangering our allies of South Korea and Japan?
Completely inable to stop Russia from a land grab and now a defining voice in middle east policy?

Need I go on?

Obama was an absolute disaster with foriegn policy. Then he was almost as bad with his economic policy domestically.

Easily one of the worst Presidents of all time.
 
Runnin said:
ISIS is just a bunch of opportunistic gangs coming together to plunder and attack anyone opposing them. Unless you think American troops should be over there indefinitely getting blown up on a daily basis, taking Sadaam out is what gave rise to the situation. Obama had no choice but to pull the majority of our troops out. Public opinion would have only grown worse, just like it did in Vietnam. Bush/Cheney stuck their dumb noses into that hornets' nest. No other way to see it unless you think we should be charged with policing the country.
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OH NO! PUBLIC OPINION!

This very clearly demonstrates that the left has no desire to do what is right in situations. Its all about how moves are perceived and catering to a bunch of babies that have no clue what the best decision is.

Its an absolute joke that this would be the reason you would quote as justified for leaving.

WOW.
 
thethe said:
Please educate us what the Obama administration did that set up this economic revival from the past 6 months since he deserves the 'lionshare' of the credit.
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There are a few transportation projects in Savannah that were half complete or never got off the road due to recession and had no funding from the state or county.

Obama's stimulus helped finish these projects. One in particular is the only freeway that bridges Southside Savannah with midtown and downtown and it has sparked plenty of economic activity on the Southside. If you knew of the traffic jams that occurred on main roads. You can ask any business on the Southside or Midtown how much that freeway has boosted customer traffic.

Oh. And Obama signed off on the funding to deepen the Savannah Harbor ports. In just a few years Savannah has boomed and is now only behind the Los Angeles Port Authority as the highest volume and busiest port in the country.

So literally Thanks Obama.

It will be embarrassing if the Republicans actually come up with an infrastructure bill after denying Obama's infrastructure bills for years when the country needed that shot in the arm.
 
The savannah ports boomed way before the Obama administration. The funding was sent because the demand dictated it.
 
thethe said:
The savannah ports boomed way before the Obama administration. The funding was sent because the demand dictated it.
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The State wasn't going to pay for it. Guess you aren't familiar with Georgia Politics. 10 years ago we were 5th. Now we're #2.
 
Forever Fredi said:
The State wasn't going to pay for it. Guess you aren't familiar with Georgia Politics. 10 years ago we were 5th. Now we're #2.
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No but I can easily understand economic reports which clearly demonstrated the port enjoyed large amounts of growth since the beginning of the 21st century.

I'm glad funding was sent there but don't act like any policies were actually implemented which initiated the demand. It was a no brainer investment.
 
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