The Trump Presidency

Jaw said:
The porn star hush money shell game disillusioned me a lot. We've certainly seen several cases of good presidents being pervs before. I would even say that some of the rumors about WJC using his power as Governor to keep things quiet were as bad or worse than Trump's payoffs. I don't care for either. Serial adulterers earn a special level of disrespect from me, whether or not I voted for them.
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The porn star story was tame compared to what came out during the campaign. You couldn't have been very surprised. If Stormy is the last, I'll be surprised.

Besides the adultery, he's indecent.
 
Runnin said:
The porn star story was tame compared to what came out during the campaign. You couldn't have been very surprised. If Stormy is the last, I'll be surprised.

Besides the adultery, he's indecent.
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wonder how his supporters will feel if there was an abortion along the way
 
Is Antifa "the" left

Besides not understanding the meaning and or connotations of "hate" it gets tedious having anything anyone disagrees with being framed "the left" did this or "the left" said that.

In the age of Trump

Antifa might be an apt example. I have been reading and supporting "left" causes (civil rights,climate science, choice etc etc etc ) since before most of you were born but had never heard of Antifa until the Tiki Riots. It was funny because I was assigned responsibility for any and all actions of Antifa.

And never heard of them before

Since the Tiki Riots and my learning of Antifa there have been shootings with a wink and nod from the NRA, a natural disaster where a shrug of the shoulders and a fend for yourself attitude was given by the Trump Administration , the eviscerating of the EPA, DACA and more and more policies designed to effect targeted groups of people. Not to mention the superficial tax cuts that give to the 1% and leave the rest. (Yes even you sturg) Policies that negatively effect those that are most vulnerable to negative effects.

Then there is Antifa -- Googling Antifa I learned that a day or so ago some random person said something someone else didn't like

Politics ain't beanbag - the old saying goes

So where and why does "hate" become the verb of political discourse. (unless of course you are Rand Paul's neighbor)

I will venture a guess that few here are aware the "hatred of the left" was yet another phrase coined by Rushbo
 
How about members of Congress meeting with frrakhan?

How about Obama never denouncing him.

It's almost comical that you would ask this. There is push from the left to censor any type of conservative voices. You guys are the fascists.
 
thethe said:
How about members of Congress meeting with frrakhan?

How about Obama never denouncing him.

It's almost comical that you would ask this. There is push from the left to censor any type of conservative voices. You guys are the fascists.
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hey...you raise a point I agree with...some on the left have a soft spot for anti semites...and I'm not talking anti Israeli policy which is an entirely different thing
 
thethe always up on the talking points

Farrakhan is the new boogie man today

but since the distraction of the day is his, let's get this out of the way quickly

**** Farrakhan, he's garbage

now, back to the topic at hand.....
 
The point actually was in direct response to the question so nice try. The left right now are the fascists.
 
I don't think I have equated, as a matter of fact I have never referenced David Duke or Westboro Baptist etc as the "hateful right". to my knowledge that was the first time I ever thought in those terms

Farrakhan has a boatload of deplorable beliefs but his whole life has preached negroid personal responsibility along the exact lines as many posters here.
You can look it up
Guess my point is one can not simultaneously condemn Farrakhan while excusing Trump.
Farrakhan has never been investigated for ties to the Russian mob to further a political end.
Or in simple terms. Sold his followers down the river to further his ends.
While like Farrakhan, Trumps anti Zionism and bigotry are on record

But, back to the topic at hand who are the "left"
and what is "hate"
and what gives those words together meaning
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Interesting Farrakhan is brought up as an example.
I expected Susan Sarandon or Meryl Streep.
Jerry Brown or Noam Chomsky
 
thethe said:
The point actually was in direct response to the question so nice try. The left right now are the fascists.
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goldfly said:
lol
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You laugh, but the current occupant of the Oval Office is evidence that many people share thethe's view on this. It has been blamed on numerous things; anti-white male sentiment, the scorn directed at Christianity, Masterpiece Cake scenarios, a surge leftward in journalism, Hollywood loudmouths, or just militant political correctness. Regardless, there was a strong and large sense of frustration that Candidate Trump was able to tap into. One would think that an opposition party that prides itself on diversity and acceptance would be curious about what actions and positions caused that outrage.
 
Bigotry,racism and misogyny- are not "diversities."
Couched or not as economic anxiety or compassionate conservatism or whatever bumper sticker is in vogue this week.
Or simply unmasked

You are ignoring 2 ongoing facts.
Russian assistance and a 3M vote disparity
 
57Brave said:
Bigotry,racism and misogyny- are not "diversities."

Couvhed or not as economic anxiety or compassionate conservatism or ehatever bumper sticker is in vogue this week.

Or simply unmasked

You are ignoring 2 ongoing facts.

Russian assistance and a 3M vote didparity
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Russian assistance by retweeting joy reid and illegals voting. Nobody is forgetting.
 
57Brave said:
That constitutes, "hate" ?
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Yes. If you can't give a person an ounce of policy credit because of their political affiliation, that is hate.

It's hate when you intentionally describe the tax cuts as $3 a week... you said you were going to wait to play it out, but you've never posted a single positive thing about it. You mocked people who saw immediate benefits. That's hate.

You call me tikiboy because I said people have a 1st amendment right.

People like Ben Shapiro are called fascists simply because they are not liberal.

Campuses gets burned to the ground in protest of conservative speakers.

Conservatives often have to waste time and energy explaining that they are not, in fact, sexist/homophobic/racist/etc.

You support terrorist group Antifa because they protest your political enemies

I really could go on, sadly
 
sturg33 said:
Yes. If you can't give a person an ounce of policy credit because of their political affiliation, that is hate.
I quoted Justin Amish yesterday and have posted Ron Paul's twitter page

It's hate when you intentionally describe the tax cuts as $3 a week... you said you were going to wait to play it out, but you've never posted a single positive thing about it. You mocked people who saw immediate benefits. That's hate.
After looking at the tax cuts I feel they are short sighted and the garland wreaths are a mirage

You call me tikiboy because I said people have a 1st amendment right.
I call you grasshopper too

People like Ben Shapiro are called fascists simply because they are not liberal.
I don't know who Ben Shapiro is

Campuses gets burned to the ground in protest of conservative speakers.
What campus was burned to the ground ?

Conservatives often have to waste time and energy explaining that they are not, in fact, sexist/homophobic/racist/etc.
That seems to be what this conversation is about. Self awareness has never been your long suit

You support terrorist group Antifa because they protest your political enemies
I support anti fa ? That is interesting

I really could go on, sadly
Don't be sad. Life is too short
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before Hawk gets all in a twither, I noticed the comma but chose to ignore it

Your definition of hate parrots Taylor Swift's. Was that on purpose or by accident?
Some day we'll meet for a drink and I will explain why I think Taylor Swift is the embodiment of the demise of Western Civilization as we know it.
I digress
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Disagreement is hate ? Interesting

Perhaps you can explain why you and the others refer to " the left " to signify anything you find disturbing
Then go back and read your description of "hate"
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“A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day. — 'Ah, so you shall be sure to be misunderstood.' — Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.”

- Emerson
 
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