The Trump Presidency
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Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
Wow, never pass up an opportunity to waste a meaningful thing with cynical maneuvering.
Couple things: first, Steve King has an appalling track record of this kind of thing. To say that it took “mere days” to get him kicked off his committee assignments is laughable.
Second, using “dual loyalties” here is at best misleading, at worst a cynical misrepresentation. “Dual loyalties” is rightfully considered a slur against American Jews. Tlaib said something along the lines of “confusing what country they work for” in reference to the Republican senators who wrote the bill, none of whom are Jewish. Fun fact: there are more Jewish Democratic Senators currently serving than Jewish Republican senators, in history. Also, fwiw, the bill in question is straight bonkers and certainly unconstitutional.
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
Im shocked that liberalism inpairs judegement on real world realities. Im very aware there isna strong liberal american jewish population that is critical of Israels policy with settlements on the west bank. Just like i think its exver likely that a black person is racist agaibst blacks the same is the case with jews agaibst jewd although situatiins arise where it is the case.
Like i said, another case where liberalism destroys reason.
To liken this to the deep rooted hatred between Muslims and Jews just shows that you try to oresent weak arguments in search of a gotcha. Par for the course with you lately. If you want to deny the obviius with this embarassment to our goverbment then by all means do so
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
You equated having an issue with Israel with being anti-Semitic. I responded by posting that article. It’s not a gotcha, it’s highlighting a differing opinion from a group of people that is probably more relevant than my own. You can move the goalposts all you want, but the validity of your statement (or lack thereof) is self-evident.
Sure - Your inability to include nuance to an argument only applies to this argument I suppose when its found in almost any other argument you engage in.
Whatever makes you feel better Julio.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I'll chime in with a little something here: my father-in-law, who is Jewish, sometimes criticizes other American Jews for caring more about Israel than the United States. He doesn't make this as a blanket statement. He will say it in reference to something specific. Is he anti-semitic?
I don’t think it was hidden. Does the liberal take on this board not give you the assumption that liberals don’t give a crap about this? They won’t change thier minds about Obama due to his picture with Farrakhan
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
There’s no nuance to saying that opposing Israel is anti-Semitic. If you meant to make clear a distinction, you should have done so.
57Brave
Well-known member
Ed Krassenstein
@EdKrassen
2h2 hours ago
BREAKING:
Senate Republicans have sided with Democrats over Trump as the
Senate votes 57-43 to move forward with Chuck Schumer’s resolution
to reverse Trump’s decision to lift sanctions on Russian companies.
The tide is starting to turn!
Take that you Big Orange Russian asset!
@EdKrassen
2h2 hours ago
BREAKING:
Senate Republicans have sided with Democrats over Trump as the
Senate votes 57-43 to move forward with Chuck Schumer’s resolution
to reverse Trump’s decision to lift sanctions on Russian companies.
The tide is starting to turn!
Take that you Big Orange Russian asset!
sturg33
I
Won't ever end.
I'm very intrigured by Tulsi Gabbard from the Dem field... but she is already being trashed from both sides because she's anti-war
The point is that those in power continue to want to push adversarial relationships with another country that has nuclear weapons based on a premise that is flat out untrue.
Is Putin a terrible person? Yes.
Should we completely stop having any positive diplomatic ties with him? Apparently the answer to this question is yes sadly.
I'm glad there is disagreement. That is fantastic for democracy. I don't want blind followers anywhere. WHat I don't like how there is a default position with so many people that Russia = bad therefore we can never have any relations with them.
We spoke with Stalin at times. This is crazy.
