The Trump Presidency
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nsacpi
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I'm surprised he hasn't brought up the black "muslims" like MAGA hat boy's mother did.
You havent cared for my characterizarions of Islam from the beginning even thiugh world wide polling shows what i say is true.
I dont know of this incident that you speak of so not even sure what to say.
Care to comment on the dispicible commentary against these teenage boys or because they had MAGA hats on that you dont think they deserve justice?
More stunning brilliance from simple man. How long did it take you think this up?
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I look at Muslims as individuals and don't evaluate the ones I know based on polling of their co-religionists. I think we go down a pretty dark path when profiling an entire religious group like that.
As far as those boys go, I look at them mainly as teenage boys rather than teenage boys wearing MAGA hats. In Kentucky, I imagine they have not encountered anyone like the "black Israelites." So there was a learning experience there. And I hope they (and the adults in their lives) will reflect upon the disrespect they showed to Mr. Phillips and learn from that as well.
We can all improve (MAGA hat wearers and non-MAGA hat wearers) and a little reflection never hurt anyone.
Ah so you can make an inference about a group (teenage boys from kentucky) but to make that inference about muslims is beyond the pale. What a guy.
You aee also a man of statistics based on your contributions to the main board so you damn well know what that worldwide polling by pew means about islam.
These kids did nothing wrong and were set up by another activist to push a radical agenda and the media eats it up like a drig addiction.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
No I am consistent in evaluating the behavior of individuals. The boys I saw behaved badly.
I've been around Muslims who I have not had warm feelings towards. Not long after 9/11, I took a long trans-atlantic flight and the guy next to me was Muslim. He explained to me how Americans deserved what happened and brought it on via their support of Israel. It was a pretty uncomfortable flight sitting next to that guy.
But I've also known Muslims who have invited me to their houses and treated me very warmly.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I think that's basically it. I'm interested to see how this plays out in terms of what the adults in their lives have to say about their behavior. To me this is the more interesting element of this whole matter. What is the take from their parents and teachers and other people they look up to.
Btw having lived in Berkeley I would not make the case that "leftist" parents are better parents than Trump-loving parents. Raising kids is a difficult thing for parents of all political persuasions.
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Agreed that there are many who reject the radical nature of the religon but statistics are statistics and you know what they mean.
What should these kids have done differently when approached by a man who has a history of being an activist? Turned around and go home?
Im still confused about a single thing they did 'wrong'.
nsacpi
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Statistics show a lot of different things about different groups. I'd rather focus on the individual.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I'm not sure I can help you. I'm sure you've seen the same clips I have. I thought they were disrespectful to Mr. Phillips. I'll leave it at that.
Please elaborate. If you are making that claim it has to be based on a single evemt that you viewed.
What was Phillips trying to achieve by walking directly to this young man and banging a drum in his face? He has no accountability here?
Focus on the individual is irreebant when creating public policy to protect our nation.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
that's the kind of thinking that led to the internment of Japanese Americans
i'm sure if polls were taken back then about feelings towards imperial Japan that it would have shown more support from Japanese Americans...but it was an atrocious mistake...and Japanese Americans served with great distinction during WWII
Yes, that compares to centuries of true hatred and intolerance. Whatever, this is going nowhere. Sorry i even chose to push the conversation away from.the true issue of the day.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I'm not judging these kids. I don't know them. But in this particular instance I think many of them behaved badly. It is pretty clear from the clips.
Even if Phillips was doing something wrong (and I don't believe he was) the kids should have stepped aside and let him continue his merry way. The kid who stood his ground acted like a jerk and the others acted like clowns.