This is becoming absurd

mossy said:
Yet, still a theory.
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so is gravity. a scientific theory is not the same as "guessing" that is a hypothesis. a scientific theory exists to explain how something known to exist (like evolution) works.

Evolution is not up for debate in science, it isn't "under consideration" it is established theory which other people use to build and expand the knowledge of.

If you took a large king james bible sized book, using the same sized font and filled it with the evidence for evolution, you could fill an Olympic Sized swimming pool with all of the volumes.

http://www.livescience.com/21491-what-is-a-scientific-theory-definition-of-theory.html
 
Forever Fredi said:
We got a poster here making an early case for Rookie of the Year and we're only in May.
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I don't know if you are making fun of me or what! lol

I'm old, worn down, well educated, intelligent, opinionated and lacking in empathy (genetically) . so basically a smart psychopath with a good sense of humor and i hate to back down or give in during a debate.
 
ugh, that's the last thing I need. women are annoying, irrational and time consuming. give me the odd hookup over a relationship any day (unless she makes a ton of cash so I can quit working and degenerate into booze and robes)
 
I'm still wondering if Goldy is ACTUALLY defending this tranny nonsense... or if he's just at a new level of trolling.
 
In a religion you can cuss Jesus Christ, use the Lord name's in vain, all the church can do to you is throw you out and not have you welcomed there, well Muslims will probably stone you to death or cut a part off your body. But let you call a transgender a name, or do anything to them in a distasteful manner, government can lock you up, fine you and do all kind of bad things to you.

So I am trying to understand what Religion has to do with transgenders. There is over a thousand different religions and thousands of different rules, only a very few and only one main stream that will physically hurt or kill you if you dishonor or make fun of their religion.
 
IDK about that man, say some bad stuff about Jeebus in some places around here and you might wake up with your house on fire.

IMO, all dogmatic thinking is bad, regardless what the dogma concerns.
 
bravos4evr said:
IDK about that man, say some bad stuff about Jeebus in some places around here and you might wake up with your house on fire.

IMO, all dogmatic thinking is bad, regardless what the dogma concerns.
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Difference though yo, that will break the law and they chose to break the law. You call some transgender a bad name because you actually used words and not violence according to the government is breaking a law or if you don't want to bake a cake for them, you get heavily fined.

You feel like nowadays any wrong word you will be in jail because you hurt someone's feelings.
 
calling them a name isn't breaking the law. and I agree on the cake thing as i tend to think the civil rights act of 1964 is unconstitutional as written (IMO it should only apply to govt, people should have the right to be terrible people with their own business and pay the consequences of their choices)
 
bravos4evr said:
calling them a name isn't breaking the law. and I agree on the cake thing as i tend to think the civil rights act of 1964 is unconstitutional as written (IMO it should only apply to govt, people should have the right to be terrible people with their own business and pay the consequences of their choices)
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a) there has been one report from a transgender person and that one time thing with the cake

b) "...your endless appeals to emotion..."
 
57Brave said:
a) there has been one report from a transgender person and that one time thing with the cake

b) "...your endless appeals to emotion..."
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my argument is purely constitutional. I think an individual business owner has the right to be a terrible person. They should be able to say 'no blacks" or 'gays" or " no people in red shirts on a thursday" because it their business. If the 14th amendment applies to gay marriage (which i support) then it should apply to the business owner. The constitution should protect terrible people equally as well as it protects those you agree with.
 
constitution is fine.
My problem comes from people using it as a shield to defend narrow points of view. An agenda if you will

In the case of the Civil Rights Act the law of the land was used to settle a grievance between classes of people. Said law was/has and is perpetually the process of being verified and challenged by the highest court of the land (in accordance with ... ? yeah you got it !!!!)

Seems to be the constitution working just fine.
Y'all think the Civil Rights Act unconstitutional -- put your money where your mouth is and go before the courts and challenge it
Otherwise , stop that nonsense
 
I am not sure why you think it's cool to force a private business owner to do business with someone he/she doesn't want to.

I guess your cool with forcing a jewish baker to bake the a swastika cake.

Or a gay baker to cook a "all ***s go to hell cake"

I think that's pretty lame
 
No one is forcing anyone to do anything.
Baker doesn't wasn't to bake a cake, don't bake the cake.

Free country. Like I said, you think a law unconstitutional, put your money where your mouth is
take it to court
do the work
the constitution (which I really dont think you understand) provides an avenue for you to air your grievance.
Throw your best pitch and see if it gets hit.

Or doesn't
 
I've told myself not to bother engaging in serious discussion with you in the past. You essentially make it impossible, and when clearly proven wrong, you run away. ... so no need to do so here
 
I suppose you and I differ on what constitutes a serious conversation. 3 AM hypothetical college dorm talks about what if a Jewish baker is asked to bake a cake with a swastika ----
or the one time a christian baker (why are they all the bakers ? ) fights a wedding cake ...

what one calls a solution in search of a problem
 
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