Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
Brutal self own.
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Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
The problem the Dems have is that these people are loud enough to be influential. Read the party platform sometime. I was able to flip a few Harris votes to Trump by asking people about issues and then pulling out the Dem platform to show them the comparison.
Also it’s weird to see conservatives blamed for fighting the culture war when the other side is promoting race based standards, drag queen story time, ass-less chaps in parades, illegal immigration, ACAB, etc. Blaming conservatives for that is akin to these girls facing charges for not being agreeably raped in Europe.
I think you’re misunderstanding my point. It’s not that the Dems are not overly invested in the culture war themselves, but that’s not exactly news. But a common sentiment on the right during the past decade or so is that was a problem unique to the left. In reality, the right has increasingly attempted to maintain that sentiment while growing increasingly invested in the same stupid nonsense they ridiculed.
I also think we need to draw a distinction between the pejorative culture war and actual matters of social policy. Things like affirmative action or what to do with policing or trans people is not the culture war. If you have genuine complaints about some of these issues from either side, I don’t think that’s woke snowflake behavior. It’s when Democrats rush to celebrate the first [insert group here] in [insert role here] or the right bemoans a minority in a commercial or the change of one brand’s logo that we are mired in culture war nonsense. My point of contention isn’t that it’s unique to the right, it’s that I’ve seen a massive upward trend on the right of leaning into this kind of behavior after levying criticisms of the woke mob for so long. An anti-woke mob is not any better.
My hope is that this shift in messaging leads the Dems to realize that they just need to win on issues. It’s not abandoning minorities to stop shoehorning in any reference you can muster or relentlessly attacking anybody who disagrees with you on a social issue. The strategy to do so comes across to me as pandering and insulting, and they should instead trust people who do agree with them on these issues to recognize which party is aligned with them based on the policies. But I’ve increasingly seen the right, particularly amongst the grifter influencers, embrace this strategy of virtue signaling.
That is all reasonable, and I’ve always respected your consistency on things, even when I disagree with you wholly. But I think there’s a pretty vocal and influential segment of the right that does not share in your principled opposition to *anything* and has embraced the culture war for political expediency, which is leading to outlandish conclusions centered around “Trump good, libs bad.” And the mainstream conservative position seems to be that the left is engaging in this culture war while they focus on results, when that’s just no longer the case. They want to bemoan the left instilling their values, but fiercely attempt to instill their own version without any recognition of what they’re doing. You can certainly levy that same criticism against swaths of the left, but I don’t feel like pretending it’s one sided.
cajunrevenge
Well-known member
This is what happens when we take God out of school.
Can’t say I love dunking on this when a Catholic school gets shot up.
cajunrevenge
Well-known member
I call BS out regardless of feelings. Its no more wrong for me to say it now than when they say it.
this one won’t stay in the news long
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Why does one need to fully assimilate. What's your favorite food? Odds are an immigrant brought it to america, unless you like shitty british food. America is made better by people buying into the American dream but holding their own identity.
But this is also the exact problem with opening up the asylums. Yes, we could solve a lot of issues with deranged individuals that are at risk of harming themselves or others to receive the treatment they desperately need, but once you have a place you can house anybody you deem to be unfit to be in society, we’re all at the mercy of whichever people get to decide that. The vast majority of trans people in this country are not murdering children or harming anybody. We cannot just send them all to asylums.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Mostly we make the pie bigger and better tasting. Plus of course music, entrepreneurship and all that jazz. And that doesn't even touch on the extraordinary contributions that the children of immigrants have historically made. Something I see in my own progeny.
You’re calling 4 people an epidemic, spare me your concern trolling.