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mqt said:
I mean, a little while in this case was meant to be years, but I promise we don’t need to start hanging people in the streets over a crime that will come out somewhere around reckless endangerment. Actions like this should have consequences, but feeding into some sort of weird bloodlust isn’t the answer.
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Do you think that Twitter post you shared was meant to be literal or figurative?

I figuratively think brick thrower at driving cars should be hanged in the streets.
 
chop2chip said:
Do you think that Twitter post you shared was meant to be literal or figurative?

I figuratively think brick thrower at driving cars should be hanged in the streets.
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It’s hard to say at this point, and that’s my issue. Just as we shouldn’t throw bricks at cars, we shouldn’t bring back public executions. Twitter user Geiger Capital is free to be as hyperbolic and figurative as he wants, but I think his sentiment is bad, just as other things are bad sometimes.
 
mqt said:
I mean, a little while in this case was meant to be years, but I promise we don’t need to start hanging people in the streets over a crime that will come out somewhere around reckless endangerment. Actions like this should have consequences, but feeding into some sort of weird bloodlust isn’t the answer.
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We've debated in the past.ive shared the data that nearly 90% of crimes would be stopped by simply removing people with 3 prior crime convictions from the society

You are opposed to that, and if memory serves, was unwilling to ever put a cap on what society should tolerate
 
mqt said:
It’s hard to say at this point, and that’s my issue. Just as we shouldn’t throw bricks at cars, we shouldn’t bring back public executions. Twitter user Geiger Capital is free to be as hyperbolic and figurative as he wants, but I think his sentiment is bad, just as other things are bad sometimes.
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You showed more outrage to a random Twitter account than you did the person who endangered dozens of lives.

That’s kinda the point…
 
chop2chip said:
You showed more outrage to a random Twitter account than you did the person who endangered dozens of lives.

That’s kinda the point…
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It’s not that I find his conduct more worthy of outrage than the brick thrower, it’s that I find the discussion of why this guy is wrong more interesting. In the case of the guy throwing a brick, I hope he gets arrested. If I show a tweet of a guy throwing a brick and saying I hope he’s arrested, I’ve done nothing to invite a conversation of any worth on a message board. It’s just true that he should be arrested. On the other hand, there’s a discussion to be had around the way the government responds to this, and the public sentiment around which rights we want to cede to the government in the interest of public safety and civil order. That I find much more interesting, so I posted it.
 
mqt said:
It’s not that I find his conduct more worthy of outrage than the brick thrower, it’s that I find the discussion of why this guy is wrong more interesting. In the case of the guy throwing a brick, I hope he gets arrested. If I show a tweet of a guy throwing a brick and saying I hope he’s arrested, I’ve done nothing to invite a conversation of any worth on a message board. It’s just true that he should be arrested. On the other hand, there’s a discussion to be had around the way the government responds to this, and the public sentiment around which rights we want to cede to the government in the interest of public safety and civil order. That I find much more interesting, so I posted it.
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What about a discussion about why leftism is constantly breeding violent thugs?
 
mqt said:
It’s not that I find his conduct more worthy of outrage than the brick thrower, it’s that I find the discussion of why this guy is wrong more interesting. In the case of the guy throwing a brick, I hope he gets arrested. If I show a tweet of a guy throwing a brick and saying I hope he’s arrested, I’ve done nothing to invite a conversation of any worth on a message board. It’s just true that he should be arrested. On the other hand, there’s a discussion to be had around the way the government responds to this, and the public sentiment around which rights we want to cede to the government in the interest of public safety and civil order. That I find much more interesting, so I posted it.
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Maybe not as “interesting” but more destructive

https://twitter.com/x/status/1931875366307815645
 
sturg33 said:
"obviously those who who set the city on fire should be punished... but I worry about the response from the republicans on this..."
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Yes, because the latter could have consequences that reach far beyond Los Angeles. How a government chooses to handle public demonstrations do matter quite a bit, even if some of the people in those crowds commit crimes.
 
mqt said:
Yes, because the latter could have consequences that reach far beyond Los Angeles. How a government chooses to handle public demonstrations do matter quite a bit, even if some of the people in those crowds commit crimes.
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Geiger Capital has received more condemnation from mqt than rioters throwing concrete bricks at moving vehicles and burning cars. Unrelated, Geiger Capital is not part of the government, but a social media account exercising its speech to make a figurative remark that people who throw concrete blocks at cars should be hanged.

Now, I can disagree with you mqt on this and steelman the point that government should err on the side of exercising restraint. What I do have a problem is Democrat leadership actively encouraging civil unrest which is what Newsom, Waters, Bass, et al are doing.
 
chop2chip said:
Geiger Capital has received more condemnation from mqt than rioters throwing concrete bricks at moving vehicles and burning cars. Unrelated, Geiger Capital is not part of the government, but a social media account exercising its speech to make a figurative remark that people who throw concrete blocks at cars should be hanged.

Now, I can disagree with you mqt on this and steelman the point that government should err on the side of exercising restraint. What I do have a problem is Democrat leadership actively encouraging civil unrest which is what Newsom, Waters, Bass, et al are doing.
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"It goes without saying i think it's bad that the leaders of California are encouraging violent mobs... but the more interesting discussion to me is how will the Republicans respond? I worry they will respond to those calls for violence with force and that's a big deal"
 
chop2chip said:
Geiger Capital has received more condemnation from mqt than rioters throwing concrete bricks at moving vehicles and burning cars. Unrelated, Geiger Capital is not part of the government, but a social media account exercising its speech to make a figurative remark that people who throw concrete blocks at cars should be hanged.

Now, I can disagree with you mqt on this and steelman the point that government should err on the side of exercising restraint. What I do have a problem is Democrat leadership actively encouraging civil unrest which is what Newsom, Waters, Bass, et al are doing.
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I didn’t really condemn Geiger Capital though. I shared his tweet and shared my opposing view. I didn’t even mention the original poster in my comment. I did say the guy throwing the brick should go to prison. How that translates to me condemning Geiger Capital more than the other guy is beyond me.

As for my bringing it up in the thread in the first place, it’s a pretty common right-wing talking point that we need to expand the death penalty and use it more openly, and I find that bad.
 
the thirsty rhetoric is risible

invasion

occupation

treason

the same folks who have trouble with Mexican flags being waved had nothing to say about the confederate flags coming from their ranks during their demonstrations
 
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