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No where did I say Trump was the one personally directing them to do that.


The summary judgement was because it was clear as day they were fraudulently inflating the assets, the only question left was intent. They paid for appraisals of their own properties and then hid them from Mazars. Even if they wanted to claim the value was higher than the appraisals they were obligated to turn those records over to the accounting firm. They signed representation that their values and calculations of assets were GAAP compliant which was a lie. They lied about the square footage of Trumps apartment despite having evidence of the correct amount and then when forced to correct it all of a sudden tripled the value per square foot so as to not lower their valuations of the apartment. They valued Maralago as a residence despite agreements not to do so for lower taxes and even at that Maralago was valued at 400% higher than any residence has ever sold for. These were all indisputable facts before the trial even took place.


Heres what the Judge had to say about the "expert witness" Bartov


Professor Bartov did not assess the valuations of any of the assets on Donald Trump’s SFCs. TT 6445. Yet, as this Court previously noted when denying defendants’ motion for a directed verdict, Bartov’s overarching point was that the subject statements of financial condition were accurate in every respect and that they were “100 percent consistent with GAAP.” TT 6537. As this Court discussed in excruciating detail in its September 26, 2023 Decision and Order, the SFCs contained numerous significant errors. By doggedly attempting to justify every misstatement, Professor Bartov lost all credibility in the eyes of the Court.45

Indeed, Bartov insisted that the misrepresentation of the Triplex, resulting in a $200 million overvaluation, was not intentional46 or material (leading the Court to wonder in what universe is $200 million immaterial). TT 6348-6356.


Bartov opined that “GAAP is not designed to give you the true economic value of an asset.” TT 6240. However, it is undisputed that the SFCs required, and Donald Trump represented, that the assets be presented at their estimated current value and be GAAP compliant, so Bartov’s statement is of no consequence. Bartov further attempted to opine on the disclaimer and “worthless clauses,” previously rejected as a defense by this Court in several decisions and orders (subsequently affirmed by the Appellate Division), repeatedly referring to the clauses as “[j]ust like when you have the Surgeon General warning on the box of cigarettes, this warnings [sic] is not Phillip Morris. This warning
is for the smokers.”

Also as a footnote th

"5 As the Court previously observed, Dr. Bartov suffered essentially the same fate testifying before the Hon. Barry Ostrager in People v Exxon Mobil Corp., 65 Misc 3d 1233(A) (Sup Ct, NY County 2019) (“the Court rejects Dr Bartov’s expert testimony as unpersuasive and, in the case of his testimony about the Mobile Bay facility, finds Dr. Bartov’s testimony to be flatly contradicted by the weight of the evidence”)."

Ah, yes. The courts know more than the experts. The judge also ignored expert evaluations on Mara-Lago. He also ignored Deutsche bank that said Trump did nothing wrong

"Bartov is a tenured professor, but all that his testimony proves is that for a million or so dollars, some experts will say whatever you want them to say,” Engoron wrote."

The judge pretty much cut his his own throat here.

Also, all of his crackpot reasoning that you put here is still is based on the delusion that he himself gets to decide what is the market value instead of the free enterprise system.

Sorry, but this type of quackery won't hold up in the appellates.
 
Ah, yes. The courts know more than the experts. The judge also ignored expert evaluations on Mara-Lago. He also ignored Deutsche bank that said Trump did nothing wrong

"Bartov is a tenured professor, but all that his testimony proves is that for a million or so dollars, some experts will say whatever you want them to say,” Engoron wrote."

The judge pretty much cut his his own throat here.

Also, all of his crackpot reasoning that you put here is still is based on the delusion that he himself gets to decide what is the market value instead of the free enterprise system.

Sorry, but this type of quackery won't hold up in the appellates.


Again,the Judge did not say Maralago is worth x despite the experts saying it's worth y. The Judge did point out that Maralago was valued as a residence despite the tax agreement barring that and that the value as a commercial property was a lot less than that of residential. No one disputed any of that. Trump himself even admitted it. I don't know how that can be any clearer.



Bartov showed himself to be a bought and paid for puppet when he said the SFCs were GAAP compliant. That's as factually wrong as saying the suj is purple.


You should read the verdict because you are just reciting propaganda that's not even in the verdict.
 
If they did what Trump did they deserve it. I will take an avatar bet with anyone who wants to bet the case is overturned. Any takers?
 
Again,the Judge did not say Maralago is worth x despite the experts saying it's worth y. The Judge did point out that Maralago was valued as a residence despite the tax agreement barring that and that the value as a commercial property was a lot less than that of residential. No one disputed any of that. Trump himself even admitted it. I don't know how that can be any clearer.



Bartov showed himself to be a bought and paid for puppet when he said the SFCs were GAAP compliant. That's as factually wrong as saying the suj is purple.


You should read the verdict because you are just reciting propaganda that's not even in the verdict.

He sure did evaluate it. How do you think he came to the conclusion that this was fraud if he didn't put a monetary value on it? In his statements he keeps saying Trump over evaluated his assets.

I'm not the one buying into the propaganda of the judge's but you are. This clown doesn't know what he's talking about.
 
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Okay, what monetary value did the Judge place on Maralago. Read the verdict and tell me don't respond with what Trump defenders said. Maralago was valued as a residence not commercial. That's fraud. No valuations need to be argued. He had his own properties appraised by appraisers of his choosing and didn't give those to Mazars and instead just told them properties were worth 10-15 times as much as appraised. Mazars asked for this stuff and was told it didn't exist. Trump could have still claimed to Mazars that the properties were worth what he claimed but the appraisals would have at least let Mazars know they needed to look into why the valuations were so different. Trump valued one property he had permission to build only 500 holes as of he not only had permission to build 2500 built also as if they were already built. Trump falsely claimed his interest in Vornado as liquid cash which was a lie. Trump falsely inflated his apartments value, even if you accept the square footage as a mistake how can you justify tripling the value per square foot at the same time as acknowledging it was 1/3rd the size other than purposely inflating the value. What happened in that time frame to cause his apartment to triple in value per square foot? Trump said his SCFs followed GAAP which was a lie. His signed agreements for the loan required his SCFs to follow GAAP.
 
There is no GAAP pertaining to how valuation work should be performed. It’s a matter of evaluating competence and credentials of those performing it. Auditors can request to have independent valuation work performed if they are opining on it. In this case I do not believe Mazars ever provided comfort over the valuation figures trump provided to third parties.

Auditors can choose to rely on clients valuation work but if they are going to opine they usually use their own valuation people.
 
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Okay, what monetary value did the Judge place on Maralago. Read the verdict and tell me don't respond with what Trump defenders said. Maralago was valued as a residence not commercial. That's fraud. No valuations need to be argued. He had his own properties appraised by appraisers of his choosing and didn't give those to Mazars and instead just told them properties were worth 10-15 times as much as appraised. Mazars asked for this stuff and was told it didn't exist. Trump could have still claimed to Mazars that the properties were worth what he claimed but the appraisals would have at least let Mazars know they needed to look into why the valuations were so different. Trump valued one property he had permission to build only 500 holes as of he not only had permission to build 2500 built also as if they were already built. Trump falsely claimed his interest in Vornado as liquid cash which was a lie. Trump falsely inflated his apartments value, even if you accept the square footage as a mistake how can you justify tripling the value per square foot at the same time as acknowledging it was 1/3rd the size other than purposely inflating the value. What happened in that time frame to cause his apartment to triple in value per square foot? Trump said his SCFs followed GAAP which was a lie. His signed agreements for the loan required his SCFs to follow GAAP.


It's not on the ruling but he did quote what the court expert said Mar-a-Lago is worth earlier in court.

I'd like to know how that square footage tripled when the value of the property dropped severely.

Yes, there are numerous errors. Every company has them. If you did this all of this crap to Microsoft or any other company you could get this same result that Trump's company did. If you did an evaluation on my holdings I'm sure you can find contradictions and errors as well. This judge would charge me with fraud as well. This is why so many lawyers and businessmen say this ruling is dangerous because you can get anyone on it.

You keep believing everything this crank is saying.
 
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It's not on the verdict but he did quote what the court expert said Mar-a-Lago is worth earlier in court.

I'd like to know how that square footage tripled when the value of the property dropped severely.

Yes, there are numerous errors. Every company has them. If you did this all of this crap to Microsoft or any other company you could get this same result that Trump's company did. If you did an evaluation on my holdings I'm sure you can find contradictions and errors as well. This judge would charge me with fraud as well. This is why so many lawyers and businessmen say this ruling is dangerous because you can get anyone on it.

You keep believing everything this crank is saying.

There is literally a log auditors keep called a “summary of misstatements” as well as a control deficiency log to identify all deficiencies. Every company in the world has entries on these work papers but auditors determine that these misstatements or control deficiencies would not change a user of those financials statements decisions so still provide an unqualified opinion on the financials.
 
Maybe you should forward your thoughts to Trump's lawyers because they didn't raise them in court.

Or maybe you shouldn’t talk about these things like you know anything because you can regurgitate moronic leftist talking points.

I don’t pay attention to communist show trials but I assume they did mention these things but fell on deaf ears because they are in fact communist show trials.
 
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