Uribe and KJ to NYM

Russ2dollas said:
I think Maybin may go but probably in the off season.

Maybin trade fits if we try to extend miller and wood and can only get one. Then we may find part of the wood package is a corner of. Then Maybin trade to fill hole at c or 3b unless we attach him to cj
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Maybin may turn out to be a hot commodity. I'd personally love to keep him, as he's been very good for us. Saw this a moment ago from Rosenthal though, so maybe he'd fetch us a good return.

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 15m15 minutes ago

Exec on market: “If you’ve got a hitter, you’ve got gold. If you’ve got a pitcher, you’ve got a hot potato.” Surplus of pitchers available.
 
Hawk said:
A pretty good comparison will be to see what Oakland gets for Zobrist.
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I think Zobrist will definitely bring back more. He's a full tier above Juan Uribe in my view. His versatility gives the A's a huge market. He's a borderline candidate to receive a qualifying offer IMO, so that may factor in as well.
 
dak said:
I think Zobrist will definitely bring back more. He's a full tier above Juan Uribe in my view. His versatility gives the A's a huge market. He's a borderline candidate to receive a qualifying offer IMO, so that may factor in as well.
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Well, Uribe alone, yes -- but KJ + Uribe is pretty close, especially when you bring in Kelly's versatility. Plus Zobrist is double the cost.

But the qualifying offer is huge, and you know that Oakland isheavily factoring that into their asks.
 
Hawk said:
But the qualifying offer is huge, and you know that Oakland isheavily factoring that into their asks.
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Yep, if I'm Oakland, I would not trade Zobrist for less than the value of the QO. It's not a slam dunk that they would give him the QO, but in a world where Michael Cuddyer gets one, I think they can convince the acquiring team that this is the price threshold that has to be exceeded. I think their return for Zobrist will be in the ballpark of what they got for Kazmir.
 
Freshmaker said:
Maybin may turn out to be a hot commodity. I'd personally love to keep him, as he's been very good for us. Saw this a moment ago from Rosenthal though, so maybe he'd fetch us a good return.

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 15m15 minutes ago
Exec on market: “If you’ve got a hitter, you’ve got gold. If you’ve got a pitcher, you’ve got a hot potato.” Surplus of pitchers available.
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But, but, but.....you can never have too much pitching!

And....we will build our offense through trading away our second and third tier pitching!

Times change. The smart change early with them.
 
I say we keep Maybin n slide him over to left. Maybin, Mallex, n Markakis has a nice ring to it

Of course we'd have to upgrade 3b and catcher since we'd have no pop in the OF.
 
Freshmaker said:
Maybin may turn out to be a hot commodity. I'd personally love to keep him, as he's been very good for us. Saw this a moment ago from Rosenthal though, so maybe he'd fetch us a good return.

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 15m15 minutes ago
Exec on market: “If you’ve got a hitter, you’ve got gold. If you’ve got a pitcher, you’ve got a hot potato.” Surplus of pitchers available.
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if he is we should strike why the iron is hot...i'm not a long term believer....but we don't have to trade him...we should only trade him if we get an offer we can't refuse IMO. Otherwise wait till offseason where more people are planning.
 
Horsehide Harry said:
But, but, but.....you can never have too much pitching!

And....we will build our offense through trading away our second and third tier pitching!

Times change. The smart change early with them.
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Trading pitching for hitting is a fine thing to do, whether they can get anyone for that is another story.
 
This just means more playing time for CJ. I am okay with this. We sent cash too? The deal doesn't really make sense since these prospects we got probably are nothing better than our current group. But hey it doesn't make the slightest difference anyway.
 
This is exactly what I didn't want the Braves to do with these trade pieces...trade them 1 for 1 and acquire C level prospects. I would have much rather the KJ/Uribe package (the most offense this current roster can offer a contender) bring back a single B prospect than 2 C level prospects. Maybe that type of deal wasn't available, so who knows.
 
Enscheff said:
This is exactly what I didn't want the Braves to do with these trade pieces...trade them 1 for 1 and acquire C level prospects. I would have much rather the KJ/Uribe package (the most offense this current roster can offer a contender) bring back a single B prospect than 2 C level prospects. Maybe that type of deal wasn't available, so who knows.
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if we were in the met's place would you want to give up Mallex for KJ/URIBE? I'd be pissed.
 
Has anyone seen the projection on free agents' status (Class A, Class B, etc.). Wondered what, if any, draft picks would have been at hand if the Braves had merely allowed Uribe and Kelly to become free agents.
 
rico43 said:
Has anyone seen the projection on free agents' status (Class A, Class B, etc.). Wondered what, if any, draft picks would have been at hand if the Braves had merely allowed Uribe and Kelly to become free agents.
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Class A and B free agents don't exist anymore. We would have only gotten a pick for them if we had offered them a qualifying offer, which would be a 1 year deal for about $15 million.
 
clvclv said:
Let's see if Mallex can get his average above .215 and OBP above .248 at Gwinnett before we plug him in in CF next spring.
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Yup. I'd like to see both Mallex and Peraza have a stretch of at least 200 ABs in AAA where they put up an OBP of .330 or higher before bringing them up. Bethancourt was counted on too soon.
 
Trading them to the NYM is almost like trading them to the Cardinals. We only have 7 games left with NYM, and before last night, had 6 left with St. Louis.
 
I'm on board with the overall direction that Hart and company are taking this team. I'm just very surprised and disappointed with yesterday's trade. It's the timing and circumstances more than anything else. It has that feel of the rug being pulled out from under the team. The Braves were coming off a good series with the Dodgers and eagerly anticipating the return of Freddie Freeman very soon. Our chances for the playoffs are not very good, but there is still somewhat of a legitimate chance, especially with Freeman. Then, minutes before the beginning of a tough series they go and give away two of our most important players with a week to go before the deadline for a very modest return. That's, of course, not to mention helping the team just a few games ahead of us in our own division. It just seems so unnecessary. Why this particular trade at this exact moment? It's hard to see the players taking it as anything other than the front office officially giving up on this year's team. We all understand their chances of making the playoffs are very slim, but there is never anything wrong with trying as long as you're not doing it at the expense of the future. To hang around in the wildcard or even division race would be the kind of experience that can only help our young players.

I'm a big John Hart fan going back to his days as a minor league manager here in Charlotte where he won a Southern League Championship with the Charlotte O's. I think he's done an amazing job of restocking the minor league system in a very short period of time. For the moment, though, this hurts my faith in him a little bit. I know this trade isn't important in the overall scheme of things, but I just feel like he let his players down with this one.

I'm still holding out hope there might be some other move made that would put this trade in a different light, cause it to make more sense.
 
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