We need a new manager!!!

Dalyn said:
Truth is, most teams fire Fredi after '11.
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That's not truth; it's speculation.

Dalyn said:
And he deserved it.
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Why? Because his team collapsed down the stretch? With that policy I wonder if there'd be enough players and managers left to play after you got through firing everybody.

Dalyn said:
His in-game managing is below average.
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LMAO And you would know this how exactly?

Dalyn said:
And that is being kind.
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It's arrogant to think you know as much about managing baseball as I guy who's been doing it for over 20 years. You don't know enough about what's actually going on to even make an informed judgement, nor does anyone else on this site. BC says he's doing a good job and he's having success.

Dalyn said:
Since he took over, he has had players calling him out, a coach attacking a player and another making lewd gestures toward fans, and at least one player admitting that he thought Fredi ended his career.
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A spoiled prima donna of a player called him out. Good for Fredi.
Roger got caught being a regular guy.
TP didn't attack anybody.
"admitted that he thought" - Okay

That all seems about par for the course for managing in professional sports.

FWIW I'm gonna almost always support the manager just out of GP. It's just too easy to criticize and you never have all the info or even know what the managers are specifically thinking. Even if a manager is clearly wrong I don't like piling on. They do an impossibly difficult job and I don't expect them to be perfect.
 
ChapelHillMatt said:
Wins are all that matter, I'd much rather have a manager that makes "bad moves" and wins than someone who makes "good moves" and loses.
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We actually agree here, but call me when we win a World Series with Fredi and I'll give him as much credit as you do. Well, I'll try to anyway. I understand it would be hard to top the Fredi can pretty much do no wrong crowd.
 
Braves1976 said:
We actually agree here, but call me when we win a World Series with Fredi and I'll give him as much credit as you do. Well, I'll try to anyway. I understand it would be hard to top the Fredi can pretty much do no wrong crowd.
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Baseball is probably the hardest sport to win a championship in.

Easily has the biggest tale of luck.

Look at the Giants, Cards a few times, among some others.

It's a crapshoot.

May never happen but won't be because of Fredi, can only do what he does, and hope the players execute.
 
Heyward said:
Baseball is probably the hardest sport to win a championship in.

Easily has the biggest tale of luck.

Look at the Giants, Cards a few times, among some others.

It's a crapshoot.

May never happen but won't be because of Fredi, can only do what he does, and hope the players execute.
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giants had great septembers both of those years...and HFA in the WS.... not a crapshoot
 
Heyward said:
Honestly not sure how you blame that on him.

Ayala got the ground ball, and Ayala missed the bag which would of been two outs.

Not sure what more to do really.
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I am talking about his decision to pitch to the #8 guy with two outs and a runner at second. That was his first real in-game decision of the playoffs.
 
Runnin said:
That's not truth; it's speculation.

Why? Because his team collapsed down the stretch? With that policy I wonder if there'd be enough players and managers left to play after you got through firing everybody.

LMAO And you would know this how exactly?

It's arrogant to think you know as much about managing baseball as I guy who's been doing it for over 20 years. You don't know enough about what's actually going on to even make an informed judgement, nor does anyone else on this site. BC says he's doing a good job and he's having success.

A spoiled prima donna of a player called him out. Good for Fredi.
Roger got caught being a regular guy.
TP didn't attack anybody.
"admitted that he thought" - Okay

That all seems about par for the course for managing in professional sports.

FWIW I'm gonna almost always support the manager just out of GP. It's just too easy to criticize and you never have all the info or even know what the managers are specifically thinking. Even if a manager is clearly wrong I don't like piling on. They do an impossibly difficult job and I don't expect them to be perfect.
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1. You are right.

2. Not worth discussing.

3. It is obvious.

4. You are both right and wrong here. You really have no clue what I may or may not know. Not worth discussing further, really.

5. A. Medlen is a 'spoiled prima donna'? B. Regular guy? Hardly. Come on... C. Sure he did. D. ? How often do you hear a player blame a manager for ending his career? It is not the whole truth, most likely, but some of it rings true.

6. I disagree about the par statement, but okay.

7. Okay. That's certainly your prerogative. Not the way I look at it, but it is just a difference of perspective.
 
Bdawg2309 said:
giants had great septembers both of those years...and HFA in the WS.... not a crapshoot
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Well, on paper, they weren't the best team but won.

September meh, every team has ebs and flows through the year.
 
Dalyn said:
I am talking about his decision to pitch to the #8 guy with two outs and a runner at second. That was his first real in-game decision of the playoffs.
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That I agree with but it wouldn't of mattered with how good Kershaw was pitching.
 
Heyward said:
They eventually got runs after that, we scored 1 run.

They got a homer from AGon, and some runs after.

So...
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You really don't know how things would've gone had they not scored two that inning. Medlen might've found himself. The offense might've loosened up. The point is, you can't have a manager making that kind of mistake when it is the playoffs and Kershaw is pitching. Period.
 
If your going to suggest firing the manager then atleast suggest someone you want to get hired. Atleast that way I can find umpteen million threads from fans of the team they used to coach wanting him fired. Face it, competent managers are a rare breed, just be happy we dont have someone like Dusty Baker or Joe Morgan.
 
cajunrevenge said:
If your going to suggest firing the manager then atleast suggest someone you want to get hired. Atleast that way I can find umpteen million threads from fans of the team they used to coach wanting him fired. Face it, competent managers are a rare breed, just be happy we dont have someone like Dusty Baker or Joe Morgan.
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I think it should be handled differently. The pitching coach should set the rotation and control the staff. The hitting coach should set the lineup and decide who hits for whom and all that. The manager should keep everyone happy and be the team spokesman when dealing with the GM (what deals to make, team needs, etc etc), the media, other teams, and the players and coaches.
 
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