West Virginia

Be that as it may I still haven't found a link that explaining a 3% weekly increase for Ryan's Secretary, my anecdotal tax relief or the teachers of West Virginia making $30K.
We go from your estimated $900 to $200 to $75 per year
Something doesn't add up

A link would go a lot further than a sophomoric insult.
We can assume there is no link - so let's move on.
 
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57Brave said:
Be that as it may I still haven't found a link that explaining a 3% weekly increase for Ryan's Secretary, my anecdotal tax relief or the teachers of West Virginia making $30K.
We go from your estimated $900 to $200 to $75 per year
Something doesn't add up

A link would go a lot further than a sophomoric insult.
We can assume there is no link - so let's move on.
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I honestly don't know how dumb you have to be if you can't find them. If you google "tax rates" the first 1,000 links will have them for you. Here's an image for you though... let me know if you need help reading the numbers

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You may notice the tax rates after 10,000 go down 3-4%... not to mention the doubling of the standard deduction (somewhat offset by the elimination of personal exemption)

Can you please stop making so many dumb comments on things you have no idea about?
 
Thank you for the leg work.

But the numbers are not jiving with the anecdotal amounts I see and hear.
We could use Paul Ryan's secretary again, she was making on par with the teachers in WV.

Her weekly paycheck (not end of year tax bill) was effected a dollar plus
Applying that to the striking teachers was my original point.

The tax bill is a wash to them
 
57Brave said:
Thank you for the leg work.

But the numbers are not jiving with the anecdotal amounts I see and hear.

We could use Paul Ryan's secretary again, she was making on par with the teachers in WV.

Her weekly paycheck (not end of year tax bill) was effected a dollar plus

Applying that to the striking teachers was my original point.

The tax bill is a wash to them
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It's a mathematical formula. There is no anecdotal evidence that means anything in comparison to that fact.
 
Granted

The anecdotal speaks to these peoples day to day lives. At the end of the year they will see a 3% cut in their taxes, though nice, it really isn't the point.
I would think the $900+ lump sum tax break in April is gone by June.

A $20 a week break for teachers is insulting
Thus the first of many teachers strikes

What does that $20 a week buy ?
For school teachers.
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So we’ve gone from disputing the 3% figure entirely to disputing how valuable that 3% is.

Something something moving goalposts.
 
57Brave said:
Granted

The anecdotal speaks to these peoples day to day lives. At the end of the year they will see a 3% cut in their taxes, though nice, it really isn't the point.

I would think the $900+ lump sum tax break in April is gone by June.

A $20 a week break for teachers is insulting

Thus the first of many teachers strikes

What does that $20 a week buy ?

For school teachers.

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All the tax reform did is give earned money back to the people who earned the money. Anything else is wealth redistribution. If that's what you want cool but just say it.
 
Hawk said:
So we’ve gone from disputing the 3% figure entirely to disputing how valuable that 3% is.

Something something moving goalposts.
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My experience for what it is worth, I am not seeing a 3% change in my paychecks.
Perhaps it has to do with my deduction schedule or perhaps I am having more taken out than needed
whatever.
It is what it is

Sturg provided the 3% number --- so be it.
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I have disputed the claim that this tax bill would alleviate paycheck to paycheck issues for people making under $50K as far back as October.
And still see the same thing.
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Back to the teacher strike.

My reading last night said teachers of neighboring states were ready to join the strike.
You have never lived through a major strike before, have you ?
 
I wonder what teachers would think if you gave their hourly wage in comparison to most of us in the corporate world.
 
57Brave said:
My reading last night said teachers of neighboring states were ready to join the strike.
You have never lived through a major strike before, have you ?
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There's a reason for that. I'll trust you to do the math (perhaps against my better judgment).
 
https://www.wvgazettemail.com/news/...cle_e2e72417-7496-591a-a838-2cd1afbcb40c.html

The Senate Finance Committee took up a pay raise bill that had been previously passed by the House. During the committee meeting Saturday evening, members reduced the pay increase for teachers, school service workers and State Police troopers from 5 percent to 4 percent.

Later that evening, the Senate mistakenly passed the House version of the bill with the 5 percent raise, as opposed to the 4 percent version sent to the Senate from committee.
 
I wonder what teachers think they should make working 32 hours a week with 11 weeks of vacation...
 
CK86 said:
You are aware there is more that goes into being a teacher than working "32 hours a week" right?
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Considering my brother was a teacher yes I do. After 5 years when your curriculum is somewhat set there is limited work to bring home when you couple in free periods.
 
It's also worth pointing out that it is difficult to substantially cut taxes on people who were not already paying substantial taxes
 
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/06/us/west-virginia-teachers-strike/index.html

"You have a story here, a modern-day story, of labor solidarity on an issue that is irrefutable," she said. "That for teachers to stay in our profession, for bus drivers and support staff to stay and do this work, we need a livable wage, and we need the conditions in schools that we can help kids thrive."

West Virginia ranks 48th in the nation in terms of how much it pays its teachers, according to the National Education Association, and educators say that low pay pushes qualified teachers to leave the state.
 
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