What Concerns you most about 2014?

The Nationals don't concern me that much, despite hype from ESPN and national media. What concerns me the most is that the rotation does not match up well against the Cards or Dodgers in a playoff series. No Braves starter is currently a bona fide stopper.
 
zitothebrave said:
Harper was hurt, Werth was hurt, Ramos was hurt, Espinosa was hurt, and they replaced arguably their worst pitcher (Haren) with Fister. So if Harper is healthy and Espinosa is healthy (he can push Rendon or replace if Rendon is hurt or sucking) and they improved on their starting pitching. If they add 2 fWAR at pitching, and stay about equal on offense. They're gonna be much tougher.
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Werth also had a 160 wrc+. Even if he does play the whole season he won't be as productive in 2014.
 
Re: Span and BJ. I would take Upton because I think 2013 was a fluke and I believe he will revert back to the 107-113 WRC+ hitter he was the 3 prior years coming to Atlanta. I suspect Span to be in the 95-105 range.
 
Knucksie said:
The Nationals don't concern me that much, despite hype from ESPN and national media. What concerns me the most is that the rotation does not match up well against the Cards or Dodgers in a playoff series. No Braves starter is currently a bona fide stopper.
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You're worried about the playoffs? I'm worried about making them. But I agree the biggest worry is the rotation; lack of an ace and big questions at the 4 and 5 spots.

I'll feel a lot better if Beachy and Garcia have dominant springs.
 
NinersSBChamps said:
Um what? Personal insult alert as well.
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Sensitive much? Being called ignorant is not an insult. Ignorant is the result of not knowing. If you don't know what wrc+ is then you are ignorant of it. That's just a fact. And in this day and age if you don't know what it is and don't want to find out then it's just you being lazy. If you want to learn then people here will help you. If you don't then you are going to continue to be made a fool of.
 
thewupk said:
Sensitive much? Being called ignorant is not an insult. Ignorant is the result of not knowing. If you don't know what wrc+ is then you are ignorant of it. That's just a fact. And in this day and age if you don't know what it is and don't want to find out then it's just you being lazy. If you want to learn then people here will help you. If you don't then you are going to continue to be made a fool of.
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I honestly don't care about some advanced stat that tries to make a player look decent.
 
AUTiger7222 said:
Span's best seasons were 5 years ago dude. What's the difference in wanting to make it a bad mark against BJ. that his best years were 6 years ago when Span's best years were 5 years ago? Seriously? What's the difference? 1 year? Oh wow, Let's hold B.J.'s last 5 years against him but give Span a pass for his last 4 years.

The reason I brought B.J. up was because you cannot say Denard Span is a "above-average" hitter and then turn out and say B.J. isn't when up until 2013 B.J. Upton had the better career. B.J. was beyond pathetic in 2013, I'm not denying that. But Span wasn't good either with his 97 wRC+ and hasn't been good in 5 years.
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BJ should be back to hitting, but comparing him tanking last year to Span tanking 4 years ago is foolish. There's a reason to be more reserved about Bossman than there is about SPan, because Bossman was atrocious last year. I think he'll bounce back. But if I was picking one in fantasy I'd take Span because he never was 50 wRC+.

97 wRC+ is just about average. And above average for a CF. You're just splitting hairs.

Dude what are you even talking about?
 
thewupk said:
Then you are going to be continue to be ignorant on how good players actually are.
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I watch enough baseball and can tell the good players versus the average ones versus the bad ones. I don't need some made up stats to tell me if a player is good or not.
 
My biggest concern has to be the rotation. Too many young guys and that leaves a ton of question marks.

Medlen, Minor, JT, Beachy, Wood, and Floyd leaves a lot to be desired. Two guys coming off injuries, one of which returned last season only to get shutdown again. JT and Wood can be electric at times and also a little erratic as well. Although by seasons end I expect Julio to be our ace and most dependable starter. Medlen and Minor are without a doubt the Braves closest to a sure thing. It wasn't too long ago when Minor was down right awful. He has been trending up which is a positive sign. Medlen had his best month of the season in September which is where I think he caught his second wind and returned to that pitcher we all saw in 2012.

Having said this, I fully expect the usual suspects to attack me by lobbing "whiner" or "complainer" by direction.
 
This is my problem with statheads, they think their way of looking at the game is the only way. If you disagree with them you get called names. If you only want to look at traditional stats you are told you aren't knowledgeable as they are. I'm not sure why these new stats are the be all end all and the stats we've used for hundreds of years get pushed to the side but I'd like to think this game is still judged on how many hits and runs you score vs how many you give up.
 
ChapelHillMatt said:
This is my problem with statheads, they think their way of looking at the game is the only way. If you disagree with them you get called names. If you only want to look at traditional stats you are told you aren't knowledgeable as they are. I'm not sure why these new stats are the be all end all and the stats we've used for hundreds of years get pushed to the side but I'd like to think this game is still judged on how many hits and runs you score vs how many you give up.
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The thing is that stats grow and evolve. If a stat isn't growing and enhancing then it's stagnant. Advanced metrics were made to hone perspectives. You can look at old stats if you want, but it's kind of like learning old code if you want to be a programmer, you can learn from it for sure and it may be relevant to the stats now, but you are not helping yourself.
 
zitothebrave said:
BJ should be back to hitting, but comparing him tanking last year to Span tanking 4 years ago is foolish. There's a reason to be more reserved about Bossman than there is about SPan, because Bossman was atrocious last year. I think he'll bounce back. But if I was picking one in fantasy I'd take Span because he never was 50 wRC+.

97 wRC+ is just about average. And above average for a CF. You're just splitting hairs.
Dude what are you even talking about?
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People say the Braves shouldn't have signed B.J. Upton because the last 4 years with the Rays they say he was on a downward spiral. Well by that same definition, Denard Span's last 4 years he has been on a downward spiral. I honesty don't see how you don't understand what my point is. Maybe if you took a step back for a second you would realize that my point is that the Denard Span and B.J. Upton are the EXACT SAME HITTER! Forget about B.J.'s 50 wRC+ in 2013 for 1 ****ing second. That clearly was a major fluke and there's no reason to believe B.J. won't fall in the 90-110 range in 2014. The same damn range that Denard Span is in. Hell for their career's Denard Span is at 103 and B.J. is at 102. That's with B.J.'s 50 whatever in 2013. So if you take that out B'J's wRC+ is probably 110 or something like that for his career. There's no 1 single year you can take out for Span to get him to 110 or whatever. But whatever. I'm done arguing with someone who's being ignorant about this.
 
ChapelHillMatt said:
This is my problem with statheads, they think their way of looking at the game is the only way. If you disagree with them you get called names. If you only want to look at traditional stats you are told you aren't knowledgeable as they are. I'm not sure why these new stats are the be all end all and the stats we've used for hundreds of years get pushed to the side but I'd like to think this game is still judged on how many hits and runs you score vs how many you give up.
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Wanna look at traditional stats for a minute?

Evan Gattis - .243 AVG, 21 2B, 21 HR, 65 RBI
Brian McCann - .256 AVG, 13 2B, 20 HR, 57 RBI

Yet the majority of the folks here are scared to death of Gattis taking over for McCann.
 
ChapelHillMatt said:
This is my problem with statheads, they think their way of looking at the game is the only way. If you disagree with them you get called names. If you only want to look at traditional stats you are told you aren't knowledgeable as they are. I'm not sure why these new stats are the be all end all and the stats we've used for hundreds of years get pushed to the side but I'd like to think this game is still judged on how many hits and runs you score vs how many you give up.
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And I don't understand why people like you are so against using certain stats. You will use the flawed BA stat and the useless RBI stat all you want, but when it comes to something that contains more than three letters you'll just slam the door in its face. Oh, but we used those stats for hundreds of years? Yeah, well we also used horse and buggy for hundreds of years too. Maybe the automobile should never have been invented? You are so afraid of change it's silly.
 
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