Why Academics Leftists and Elitists Need to Treat Ordinary Americans With Respect

[Tapate50]

 

[mqt]

We have a thriving anti-American sentiment now on American campuses. What does that say about higher education?

That fortunately the scourge of blind patriotism hasn’t taken hold on those campuses?

 

[Garmel]

That fortunately the scourge of blind patriotism hasn’t taken hold on those campuses?

That's way better than anti-American sentiment.

 

[mqt]

That's way better than anti-American sentiment.

Am I misreading you or is your actual position that blind patriotism is actively better to teach than anti-American sentiments? I disagree with this framing of what’s being taught, but I’m curious on the answer.

 

[nsacpi]

Am I misreading you or is your actual position that blind patriotism is actively better to teach than anti-American sentiments? I disagree with this framing of what’s being taught, but I’m curious on the answer.

Fortunately in the real world out the overwhelming majority of students are neither anti-American nor blindly patriotic.

 

[mqt]

Fortunately in the real world out the overwhelming majority of students are neither anti-American nor blindly patriotic.

Agreed, both in and outside of the education system. But I would frankly prefer the former, because I think the state running explicitly pro-state education is immensely dangerous, no matter who’s in charge.

 

[Tapate50]

No one is blindly patriotic, that’s not really a thing

 

[mqt]

No one is blindly patriotic, that’s not really a thing

And colleges aren’t really teaching students to be anti-American. The answer is in the middle.

 

[nsacpi]

And colleges aren’t really teaching students to be anti-American. The answer is in the middle.

Most students are naturally skeptical of dogma. A good Thang imo.

 

[Tapate50]

And colleges aren’t really teaching students to be anti-American. The answer is in the middle.

Aren’t they ?

I mean ones more likely than the other , right ?

 

[mqt]

Aren’t they ?

I mean ones more likely than the other , right ?

I must have missed the “America is bad and you should hate it 101” course during my undergrad.

 

[Tapate50]

Way to avoid the question.

Its disregarding the common theme from faculty who hold significant influence over young minds

 

[sturg33]

I must have missed the “America is bad and you should hate it 101” course during my undergrad.

And course that teaches critical race theory, of which there are plenty, would check this box for you

 

[mqt]

And course that teaches critical race theory, of which there are plenty, would check this box for you

I for one believe that adults can decide for themselves if CRT is accurate. But the students in those classes probably already had an idea of what they thought about race relations in America prior to signing up for these courses.

 

[sturg33]

I for one believe that adults can decide for themselves if CRT is accurate. But the students in those classes probably already had an idea of what they thought about race relations in America prior to signing up for these courses.

Sorry you asked about the "America is bad and you should hate it courses" so I provided them for you

BTW is there a more diverse country on the planet?

 

[Tapate50]

This is usually when lefties leave the chat

 

[Carp]

And colleges aren’t really teaching students to be anti-American. The answer is in the middle.

The answer is in the middle, but we see far more instances of colleges teaching students to be Anti-American, anti-estabishment, anti-capitalism than we see teaching students to be blindly patriotic.

 

[sturg33]

The answer is in the middle, but we see far more instances of colleges teaching students to be Anti-American, anti-estabishment, anti-capitalism than we see teaching students to be blindly patriotic.

I must have missed the pro American protests on college campuses over the years

 

[acesfull86]

I for one believe that adults can decide for themselves if CRT is accurate. But the students in those classes probably already had an idea of what they thought about race relations in America prior to signing up for these courses.

Yes & no …most colleges have their core classes you need to take to satisfy graduation requirements, and given how pervasive CRT is, it’s increasingly difficult to avoid.

For the record, I don’t think we should “ban” CRT, especially at the college level, I just think it’s largely a waste of everyone’s time. It’s the intellectual equivalent of studying astrology.

 

[mqt]

I must have missed the pro American protests on college campuses over the years

Weirdly, people happy with something don’t tend to protest in favor of it.

I think a lot of this debate comes down to a question of what it means to be anti-American. Are you anti-American for disliking Joe Biden and the Senate? Is it anti-American to protest for better living conditions? Is it anti-American to think the justice system is a sham? If so, does that apply to criticisms of the Trump conviction?

Most teachers don’t tell students to hate America. But when you read about how late we were to abolish slavery compared to the rest of the western world, or you read that people are dying because they couldn’t afford their insulin, you can make your own decision.