Why is AJ Peirzynski a bad person?

What you are describing about CJ is AJ to a T.

BTW, when have you ever heard anyone say anything about Chris Johnson like Danks said about A. J. (or Peavy said about Gomes)?

I'd prefer to rely on them since they know them personally and have played with them.
 
"Pierzynski’s former teammates said he commands internal respect with his work ethic. Pierzynski has started at least 110 games in each of the last 11 seasons. It takes a catastrophe to get him out of the lineup.

Players notice that. The smart ones follow the lead.

“To catch as many games as he does and to show up and do all the work, those are the things that rub off on people,” first baseman Paul Konerko said. “A.J. is a fierce competitor. He’s not out there to make friends. He’s out there to win the game. That’s a great thing for a team to have.”
 
BTW, when have you ever heard anyone say anything about Chris Johnson like Danks said about A. J. (or Peavy said about Gomes)?

I'd prefer to rely on them since they know them personally and have played with them.

Just asked him that, don't count on an answer.
 
"The Red Sox let A.J. Pierzynski go yesterday, barely halfway through his one-year, $8.25 million deal. It is the second least-surprising thing in the world that he reportedly rubbed teammates the wrong way by being a loner, ignoring his pitchers, and generally being a prick. (The first least-surprising thing in the world is that the Red Sox rushed to **** on a player on his way out of town.)

It's WEEI's Rob Bradford doing the dirty work this morning, after a joyous come-from-behind, walkoff win over the White Sox that saw Shane Victorino on the top step of the dugout, leading the cheers. A team transformed! As if by magic, or at least by the excision of one particular malignant presence."


"I don't doubt for a second that the Red Sox are thrilled to have Pierzynski gone, nor that they lined up to ****-talk him last night. But this is a pattern that extends back longer than all but two of these players have been here. It seems like no one can leave this team without getting dumped on after they're gone—not even if they, unlike Pierzynski, left on pretty good terms.

This is an indictment of the media who always act exactly as management wants them to. Look at the comments on Bradford's story. Even Sox fans, who couldn't be happier to be free of Pierzynski, are openly wondering why this very real story about clubhouse chemistry wasn't published any time over the last three months."



http://deadspin.com/red-sox-dfa-a-j-pierzynski-smear-him-on-his-way-out-1602887707
 
"The Red Sox let A.J. Pierzynski go yesterday, barely halfway through his one-year, $8.25 million deal. It is the second least-surprising thing in the world that he reportedly rubbed teammates the wrong way by being a loner, ignoring his pitchers, and generally being a prick. (The first least-surprising thing in the world is that the Red Sox rushed to **** on a player on his way out of town.)

It's WEEI's Rob Bradford doing the dirty work this morning, after a joyous come-from-behind, walkoff win over the White Sox that saw Shane Victorino on the top step of the dugout, leading the cheers. A team transformed! As if by magic, or at least by the excision of one particular malignant presence."


"I don't doubt for a second that the Red Sox are thrilled to have Pierzynski gone, nor that they lined up to ****-talk him last night. But this is a pattern that extends back longer than all but two of these players have been here. It seems like no one can leave this team without getting dumped on after they're gone—not even if they, unlike Pierzynski, left on pretty good terms.

This is an indictment of the media who always act exactly as management wants them to. Look at the comments on Bradford's story. Even Sox fans, who couldn't be happier to be free of Pierzynski, are openly wondering why this very real story about clubhouse chemistry wasn't published any time over the last three months."


http://deadspin.com/red-sox-dfa-a-j-pierzynski-smear-him-on-his-way-out-1602887707

UH NO the Braves are the team that dumps on everyone when they're gone.
 
http://www.providencejournal.com/sp...e-in-white-sox-broadcaster-hawk-harrelson.ece

“Hawk loves A.J.,” Konerko said. “Hawk wishes every player could play the game like A.J. A.J.’s a winner. I’ve played against him, I’ve played with him; he’s a guy you want on your side. He’s a tough guy. He’s going to show up every day. Hawk definitely likes those kinds of guys.”

Harrelson first saw Pierzynski play when the catcher was a sophomore in high school in Orlando. And, wouldn’t you know it, he was the same then as he is now.

“He was the most hated high school player in Orlando,” Harrelson said. “That’s really one of the greatest compliments that can be paid you, when everybody hates you. That means one thing: You’re beating them.”
 
BTW, when have you ever heard anyone say anything about Chris Johnson like Danks said about A. J. (or Peavy said about Gomes)?

I'd prefer to rely on them since they know them personally and have played with them.

Schafer "knew [Johnson] was a little crazy" the first time the two entered the clubhouse together. He also knew Johnson had the makings of an great teammate.

"He's super competitive, and he wears his emotions out on his sleeve," Schafer said. "He plays hard. Whether you like that he shows so much emotion is personal preference, but he goes out there and gives everything he has, and that's all you can ask for as a teammate."
 
http://www.providencejournal.com/sp...e-in-white-sox-broadcaster-hawk-harrelson.ece

“Hawk loves A.J.,” Konerko said. “Hawk wishes every player could play the game like A.J. A.J.’s a winner. I’ve played against him, I’ve played with him; he’s a guy you want on your side. He’s a tough guy. He’s going to show up every day. Hawk definitely likes those kinds of guys.”

Harrelson first saw Pierzynski play when the catcher was a sophomore in high school in Orlando. And, wouldn’t you know it, he was the same then as he is now.

He was the most hated high school player in Orlando,” Harrelson said. “That’s really one of the greatest compliments that can be paid you, when everybody hates you. That means one thing: You’re beating them.”

ahhhh
 
Schafer "knew [Johnson] was a little crazy" the first time the two entered the clubhouse together. He also knew Johnson had the makings of an great teammate.

"He's super competitive, and he wears his emotions out on his sleeve," Schafer said. "He plays hard. Whether you like that he shows so much emotion is personal preference, but he goes out there and gives everything he has, and that's all you can ask for as a teammate."

lmao
 
Johnson's antics never seem to be about "winning" as opposed to his personal disgust. Slamming helmets, beating up bat racks, throwing helmets in the direction of teammates. I don't personally hate Johnson either, I just wish his fire was more directed at helping the team get good results and less about himself. Every team needs some guys that play with passion, and do so openly. That's part of what I felt like we hadn't seen around here for several years - a little too much of the Fredi "we'll get 'em next time" mantra. The Manager is supposed to be like that in most cases - you can't get too down after every loss - but you don't need to appear to be OK with it, especially when you're a player.

Wasn't CJ right in the middle of the Fernandez HR thing a couple of years ago? Ditto the Gomez/Maholm fracas? Seems like that was more team-oriented, anyway.

I don't really have a dog in the fight here, but I think it's interesting to observe how we (and I include myself most of all) respond to guys based on perceived personality, to note how performance influences this perception, and to see how those feelings often get very ingrained, to the extent that we're unwilling/unable to change one's mind about a player.
 
One damn thing about, in the postgame interview when A.J. stated, "Freeman hugged me on the first day of spring training and I told him that was the last time he'd ever hug me" was sure funny to me. Even funnier was the replay of the homerun, that showed FF going for the hug after AJ stepped on home and AJ put up two hands for high fives.
 
Wasn't CJ right in the middle of the Fernandez HR thing a couple of years ago? Ditto the Gomez/Maholm fracas? Seems like that was more team-oriented, anyway.

I don't really have a dog in the fight here, but I think it's interesting to observe how we (and I include myself most of all) respond to guys based on perceived personality, to note how performance influences this perception, and to see how those feelings often get very ingrained, to the extent that we're unwilling/unable to change one's mind about a player.

I think CJ cares about the team and about winning, for sure.
But he's not nearly as revered by his teammates/ex-teammates as AJ is. At least not yet. Doubtful he ever will be; AJ's had a very, very good and long career.
 
One damn thing about, in the postgame interview when A.J. stated, "Freeman hugged me on the first day of spring training and I told him that was the last time he'd ever hug me" was sure funny to me. Even funnier was the replay of the homerun, that showed FF going for the hug after AJ stepped on home and AJ put up two hands for high fives.

Funny, but sad at the same time.
 
Wasn't CJ right in the middle of the Fernandez HR thing a couple of years ago? Ditto the Gomez/Maholm fracas? Seems like that was more team-oriented, anyway.

I don't really have a dog in the fight here, but I think it's interesting to observe how we (and I include myself most of all) respond to guys based on perceived personality, to note how performance influences this perception, and to see how those feelings often get very ingrained, to the extent that we're unwilling/unable to change one's mind about a player.

Its also humorous how because they are Braves, they are good guys. That is unless they really stink up the joint, then they are scumbags.
 
Wasn't CJ right in the middle of the Fernandez HR thing a couple of years ago? Ditto the Gomez/Maholm fracas? Seems like that was more team-oriented, anyway.

I don't really have a dog in the fight here, but I think it's interesting to observe how we (and I include myself most of all) respond to guys based on perceived personality, to note how performance influences this perception, and to see how those feelings often get very ingrained, to the extent that we're unwilling/unable to change one's mind about a player.

In that quote you'll notice I said I don't hate CJ either. I think every team needs players with some fire and edge. From what I've observed on the field, CJ's incidents seem to be more about his struggles at times, but there's nothing wrong with that when it doesn't cause problems. He was called out and benched for one of them last season and no one came running out to defend him, which led me (and quite a few others around here) to feel that he had crossed the line somewhat.

As for Schafer as your character witness? Well...
 
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As for Schafer as your character witness? Well...

What, it doesn't count? You asked if CJ had any testimonials from teammates. Giles found one. It doesn't make the grade . . . why, precisely? Because Jordan smokes weed? Because he used HGH? DUDE, THAT'S JUST AN EXPRESSION OF HOW MUCH HE WANTS TO WIN!

[has cinder block smashed on chest]
 
I'm not a particular fan of Chris's. I didn't want him to get the 3B gig, I hated the extension, and I've prayed for Hart to find a way to move him.

Still, for the purpose of this discussion it's fair to mention that no-one gave a **** about Chris Johnson, the person, until his performance cratered. All of the sudden he was anathema.
 
A.J. is an asshole who has never handled losing well. I think that's obvious. We'll see how that works out for a rebuilding team that is likely going to lose a lot.
 
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