Zimmerman Trial

Tapate50 said:
All the .gifs in the world won't make you any more right on this Zeets. I know the retort already so save it, and no Bill Maher and John Stewart aren't good sources for news.

You are slower than I thought if you thought ATF would investigate a murder. FBI does mostly corporate and financial crime now as of late as well.

There was no evidence he did anything wrong. I am not sure what everyone wanted?

Everyone take a DEEP breath and think about how scary this world would be if you could be convicted of murder (like all of yall want) with NO evidence.
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Don't we already have a world like that in the case of terrorism? You can now be detained indefinitely or killed if someone in the government think you may be a terrorist - no charges, no trial, no jury.

You're right, that is terrible
 
thethe said:
So that isn't part of the "known" facts. What is the point? Aliens could have came and shot Martin. Hey, nobody knows what really happened and we can't believe Zimmerman.
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No we know who shot Martin, we don't know the most important part of the case, who started the fight. Was it Martin? Was it Zimmerman? Under the current laws if it was Martin Zimmerman's self defense calim is fine, if he started, his self defense is OK, but his actions would indicate manslaughter.
 
In summation, Zito wants to send a man to trial for manslaughter for defending himself, a few minutes of unaccounted actions, some lawyer coaching, he "reads" Zimmerman as a pathological liar, the prosecutions witness not being 100% accurate, and what he deems as "shoddy police work".

Zito'd.
 
If only Florida was hiring, Zito and his lying recognition, interrogation, and evidence collection skills would be a perfect fit.
 
Tapate50 said:
In summation, Zito wants to send a man to prison for defending himself, a few minutes of unaccounted actions, some lawyer coaching, he "reads" Zimmerman as a pathological liar, the prosecutions witness not being 100% accurate, and what he deems as "shoddy police work".

Zito'd.
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Never said he should be in jail right now have I? Seriously reading comprehension, learn it.
 
zitothebrave said:
2. If you had half a clue about sales, you'd know 99% of it is reading people.
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Maybe in the 80's. Id say in the day of the internet you need to know your products before you just read that someone knows you are full of bull sh!t. At the very end, it takes the right questions and knowing your product better than the next guy. Then service service service.

I also can say with 100% accuracy, that I have been in sales my whole life but never would I feel that I could peg someone on trial for murder with "lying tendancies" with any validity. Just a tip, but neither should you.
 
I never said I'd try him now now did I? But with better police work there could be a viable case. Unfortunately the failures to act that evening and the immediate days and weeks after cannot be rectified. All we can rectify are the laws and making self defense laws about actual self defense, not applying it to positions where the shooter puts himself at risk unreasonably (such as following someone)
 
zitothebrave said:
I don't use the Daily Show as a source for news, unlike people who watch Faux "News" I watch fake news shows for comedy reasons, not information.

My point with ATF was there was a full cooperation of all parties to solving that crime. ZImmerman was the triggerman and let go that night without any charges against the recommendations of the investigator essentially because of a Florida law that allows you to kill someone and if no one else is a witness to it your word is pretty much enough to get you off.

As far as there being no evidence of any wrongdoing, I think more thorough police work could have done the job. They let him speak to one investigator, a narcotics guy. He should have spoken to more than one to see if he had issues keeping details of his case straight to see if he's lying or not. Personally his crime reenactment alone would be enough to consider a negligence charge or some sort since it almost entirely contradicts the words that came out of his and the 911 dispatchers conversation. Seems to me he was just blatantly lying. I know people talk about stress being a factor, but so is lying to cover your ass.

All we have is his word because honestly the cops didn't really do their job. Would have been cleaner on a non-rainy night but I digress. Police could have done a better job.

I never said ever in this thread Zimmerman should be convicted of murder. I never said he should be convicted of manslaughter based on the law. My opinion is based on his action he should have gone to jail for manslaughter at least but legally it didn't fit the definition. I'm well aware of how the law works, but I'm also well aware of when laws need to be looked at. Such as one that essentially permits people to act like vigilantes and use deadly force when it may not have been necessary, and walk away with their guns afterwards.
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Whats that? I edited my post taking your word for it, and it turns out I was right the first time and you couldn't remember what you said an hour ago.

This is the definition of L O L
 
That's my opinion, didn't say legally he should have. He put himself in a position that wasn't part of his everyday life, and because of what transpired after that used his gun as a weapon. I also have my own personal doubts to if he was actually in lifethreatening danger but I'd take his word on that since we have no other evidence. TO me he should be in jail because of his unwise actions leading to someone's death by his gun.
 
gilesfan said:
How is it a non-truth? Do you have contrary evidence? If so, I will retract.
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The 911 call

Dispatcher: Are you Following him

Zimmerman: Yeah

Dispatcher: Ok sir we don't need you to do that.

Seriously the act you don't already know that makes me lol so hard. IF you watched his video and read the 911 transcript you'd maybe thing twice before believing every word ZImmerman says.
 
zitothebrave said:
The 911 call

Dispatcher: Are you Following him

Zimmerman: Yeah

Dispatcher: Ok sir we don't need you to do that.

Seriously the act you don't already know that makes me lol so hard. IF you watched his video and read the 911 transcript you'd maybe thing twice before believing every word ZImmerman says.
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WTF are you talking about? Of course he followed Martin at some point, that isn't disputed. What you are talking about is when Zimmerman is looking for an address to give to the cops to meet him at.
 
gilesfan said:
WTF are you talking about? Of course he followed Martin at some point, that isn't disputed. What you are talking about is when Zimmerman is looking for an address to give to the cops to meet him at.
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See more evidence you didn't read the transcripts

They ssked for the address he was near, he couldn't give it, they asked for his address, he gave it for a second but said he didn't want to say it outloud, the dispatcher asked to meet by the mailboxes he said OK.

SO did he have to look up the address of the mailboxes? Lulz
 
zitothebrave said:
See more evidence you didn't read the transcripts

They ssked for the address he was near, he couldn't give it, they asked for his address, he gave it for a second but said he didn't want to say it outloud, the dispatcher asked to meet by the mailboxes he said OK.

SO did he have to look up the address of the mailboxes? Lulz
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O M G. He is SO GUILTY now. I see it all so clearly now. He couldn't read the addresses. Thats crazay!
 
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