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It will be amusing to go ahead and rediscover the posts of people hyperventilating because of the fake Kamala bounce.

Just like when Biden pulled close with Trump earlier in the year the usual suspects came out of the woodwork with their TDS takes.
 
Quite interesting that both VP picks were used as a double down (Vance with populists, Walz with progressives). I’m not sure what Walz offers Kamala other than being folksy and likeable.
 
Carp said:
1. If you control the manner in which currency flows, then you effectively control the currency. I could own all of the gold in the world, but if I don't have clear avenue to sell/trade it, then really what use it?

2. Is TikTok a US based platform? Cause the government has already voted to restrict our access to that and it's only a social media app. You really don't think the US government doesn't have the ability to restrict the crypto exchanges you have access to? Surely you aren't that naïve. Now are there ways around that if they do block them? Sure, but at that point you're talking about doing something illegal, and certainly the value would be suppressed.

3. It's already being mandated by the government. And the Dems want to mandate it further.
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1. But the US does not control the manner in which the currency flows. They do not have any control over the blockchain ledger

2. What the US is threatening to do is to ban tik tok from US app stores. The blcokchain ledger isn't an app, nor is bitcoin

3. What is being mandated?
 
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There is literally no other reason.

Congrats Democrats - You are the Jew hater party.
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I do think his stance on Israel (and ipso facto, him being Jewish) played a decent part in the decision, but the bigger cause here, imo, is his reputation as a blue dog dem. The Democratic party has taken far too big of a step left to attach a moderate to this ticket.

Of course there is simply the chance that Shapiro, Kelly, and Cooper turned it down, like Whitmer essentially did. It's a big ask of someone to put their political career on the line for a very risky tickets.

All former VP picks on failing tickets have pretty much seen their political careers tank after losing their elections. FDR is the only politician to really have any success after losing. I guess maybe you could point to Tim Kaine, but US Senator is likely where his career tops out.
 
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Carp said:
Just because you think you're Warren Buffett or Bill Ackman doesn't make what you're saying anymore true. There is nothing that the US Government can't regulate. Hell, you brought up gold as an example earlier and yet the US literally regulates the **** out of it as well as owning the largest gold deposits in the world.
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Can the US ban gold? Can you the US take my gold from me? I suppose they could if they came to my house with a gun.

Luckily, they'd have no ability to do that with my bitcoins
 
Carp said:
I do think his stance on Israel (and ipso facto, him being Jewish) played a decent part in the decision, but the bigger cause here, imo, is his reputation as a blue dog dem. The Democratic party has taken far too big of a step left to attach a moderate to this ticket.

Of course there is simply the chance that Shapiro, Kelly, and Cooper turned it down, like Whitmer essentially did. It's a big ask of someone to put their political career on the line for a very risky tickets.

All former VP picks on failing tickets have pretty much their political careers tank after losing their elections. FDR is the only politician to really have any success after losing. I guess maybe you could point to Tim Kaine, but US Senator is likely where his career tops out.
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Shapiro can wake the **** up and realize he is really a Populist at this point. Added luxury of not having to fake caring about LGBTL:IJOSJDRH issues.
 
Garmel said:
Yes, we do know what it is. The problem is that you don't.

Yes, Bitcoin can be controlled.

You are not a tech guy and it shows. I was at one time a certified network administrator so I know a bit about security.

You actually thought Bitcoin was completely anonymous. It isn't.

You don't even know what a 51% attack is or how it works.
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Correct I have no idea what it is lol.

You never clarified your position. Do you believe that if the US governemnt bought 51% of Bircoin, they could "end the blockchain?"
 
sturg33 said:
Picking Waltz is easily the first unforced error of Commala. Gift to Trump
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Carps idea is what I've been seeing a lot.

All the serious Dems know this is a losing ticket and don't want to be attached.

Its something I threw out there a few weeks ago as well.
 
chop2chip said:
Quite interesting that both VP picks were used as a double down (Vance with populists, Walz with progressives). I’m not sure what Walz offers Kamala other than being folksy and likeable.
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Quite frankly I think that’s the right strategy. In an election where a lot of people are happy to vote against Donald Trump and JD Vance, I think just driving turnout by making (non-right leaning) people want to vote for the person on the ticket is a strong strategy and one the Dems haven’t gotten right in either previous election against Trump. I understand that electoral strategy and covering gaps in the ticket are a real consideration, but this is a campaign very intentionally being built on excitement and energy, and Walz helps with that a lot.
 
thethe said:
Carps idea is what I've been seeing a lot.

All the serious Dems know this is a losing ticket and don't want to be attached.

Its something I threw out there a few weeks ago as well.
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It's possible but it seemed like Shapiro was on his knees all week begging for the job, scraping his IDG history, disavowing his Israel support, etc.

It's insane to me that the party outraged over Charlottesville outright admits nominating a jew is political poison... and the leftists just whistle on by like its nothing
 
sturg33 said:
Can the US ban gold? Can you the US take my gold from me? I suppose they could if they came to my house with a gun.

Luckily, they'd have no ability to do that with my bitcoins
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I think we're arguing 2 different points. At no point have I talked about banning BTC or the government taking your BTC form you. You said the Government can't control bitcoin (or crypto in general). That simply isn't true. The government can absolutely control the flow of crypto currencies, should they wish to do so (and they have already taken small steps in the area). It wouldn't be the gargantuan leap you are imagining it to be.
 
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How do the Dems win PA now with rabid radicals and shunning Shapiro who is a popular Gov?

Anyone spinning this as a smart decision is not too bright
 
Carp said:
I think we're arguing 2 different points. At no point have I talked about banning gold or the government taking your BTC form you. You said the Government can't control bitcoin (or crypto in general). That simply isn't true. The government cab absolutely control the flow of crypto currencies, should they wish to do so (and they have already taken small steps in the area). It wouldn't be the gargantuan leap you are imagining it to be.
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This argument started with garmel suggesting I'd better vote for Trump to "save bitcoin" and the suggestion that dems could take my coins from me.

Nobody can "save" bitcoin. It doesn't need saving. Nobody can take my.coins away, it's not possible.

The US can make owning bitcoin illegal, but they can't stop me from owning it
 
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