2024 Field
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I’ve just not seen any reason to believe this. Every progressive I’ve talked to is excited in a way I haven’t seen since 2008 and he has everyone from AOC to Manchin lauding the pick. We’ll see if you’re right, as I certainly don’t have my finger on the pulse of middle-America outside of my circle. If the polls prove me wrong, so be it. But I’ve *always* been a proponent of finding the candidates that the average person *likes*, and that’s absolutely been the consensus on Walz from what I’ve seen.
chop2chip
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I think there’s a good argument to be made for Walz if he really is someone that’s going to excite progressives, especially the youth. I think it’s a bit of a misnomer that you need to appeal to the center to win generals, especially since that demographic can be fickle. Turning your base out has a much higher ROI.
msstate7
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Well they are big government... can't trust yourself to make decisions.
It's hard to believe that the combined IQ of the candidates actually went down since replacing Biden. I can't express how much I hate our choices.
As opposed to other VP decisions? We’ve had nothing but **** candidates for years and Walz doesn’t appear to be in that boat, so of course we’re excited. I disagree with the idea that we were simply told what to think on this, though. There’s been a concerted effort from progressives to select Walz over Shapiro, and it worked. Time will tell if it was the right decision, but Walz was the more popular choice for the base.
Yes, I’ve been rather forthcoming with my disapproval of Harris leading the ticket. Her campaign is vastly outperforming my expectations thus far, but I was one that preferred an open convention.
Yes. I think she’s bad at talking to people. I think she’s better than Trump, but that’s not exactly a high bar for me.
Sorry, you’re quite right and I need to clarify. He’s a very good salesman and has great instincts for entertaining, but exceptionally bad at talking to people who aren’t charmed by that. He’s a poor listener, turns everything into a chance to promote himself and is prone to aggressive personal attacks.
Yes, as someone who doesn’t particularly like Harris that’s part of it. Right now they have the luxury of taking advantage of the chaotic news cycle to build hype without saying much and it’s been effective. I don’t think that will continue past the convention, if that long.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Yeah that's what's happening. Not that Harris wants to carry the whole rust belt.
Tim Walz has more charisma than anyone in the race and he appeals to crowd who likes the folksy but liberal which is a healthy chunk of the middle. Shapiro has 2 things against him, first he can deliver PA, but he probably doesn't bring much else. Second and more important he opens up a potential change in government in PA which is not what the Democratic party wants. Walz leaves Minnesota a dem probably wins that seat.
Only retarded right doesn't like this pick. The fact that you have to go denegrate the democratic party by saying they hate Jews means it was such a slam dunk pick. It means you're afraid of Walz. No dem reacted like this to Vance. Because no one cares about that weirdo.