CyYoung31
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Kelenic, Soler, and Baldwin for Yelich and Bill.
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Spotrac just released contract projections. The main SS and SP of interest:
Fried - 6/136: Would you lock Fried up through his age 36 season? I don't think I want to deal with all his nagging injuries for 6 more years at a premium salary.
Adames - 6/152: This is the only obvious hole in the lineup, and it pushes Arcia to the bench to finally have a real option there. If they are going to splurge for a non-elite FA this would be a good candidate.
Fried - 6/136: Would you lock Fried up through his age 36 season? I don't think I want to deal with all his nagging injuries for 6 more years at a premium salary.
Adames - 6/152: This is the only obvious hole in the lineup, and it pushes Arcia to the bench to finally have a real option there. If they are going to splurge for a non-elite FA this would be a good candidate.
chop2chip
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$30m per seems like a lot to invest in a good, not great defensive SS who hits for power, but with below average exit velocities.
I like Adames a lot but I have some reservations using possibly my last big bullet on him.
50PoundHead
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I think Fried is gone and as much as I've watching him pitch, there's no way I would sign him to a contract of that length. I don't think the AAV is outrageous.
For some reason, Adames gives me the same vibe as Bogaerts did last off-season. He's a better SS than Bogaerts, but I'm afraid he won't be able to stay at SS for the whole six years if that is what the length of the contract is. He's a better SS than Arcia and the AAV isn't crazy bad, but I think he's on overpay on the entire package.
Heyward
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Thats alot for just 2 years of Crochet (hypothetical).
Heyward
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I think it's the right move to let Max walk. But who they replace him with is a different story, no idea. In regards to Adames. I dont think that contract is bad, but he's like the only real answer for SS right now. We dont have a ton of holes, and Adames would solve our only real major problem. I think you do it and deal with the backend of the contract later.
I think the solution to an Adames contract is he could move to 3B/2B as he ages. Riley should most likely move to 1B as he ages, but that massive Olson contract prevents that. Albies will most certainly be gone after his deal runs out, and that opens up 2B for an aging Adames.
Not sure how I feel about that Adames contract, but if the goal is to upgrade the team that's the one clear answer.
Not sure how I feel about that Adames contract, but if the goal is to upgrade the team that's the one clear answer.
Heyward
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You dont think they'll try to extend Albies?
Heyward
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They'd obviously have to pay market value to keep him this time around. He'll be 30-31 when his deal is up so i think the years would be the important thing if they could get a deal done.
Southcack77
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Sorry it's required we resign Heyward and Freeman first. It's only fair.
Southcack77
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I mean Charlie Morton makes 20m a year and you could reasonably project Fried to have a couple more All Star-ish seasons before settling into a Morton like role.
Being left handed sort of gives an illusion of longevity that isn't perhaps reality, but feel like if he would actually sign for this he might already have been extended.
Even if he breaks down you'd maybe project it happening when the window was ebbing as the contracts all hit late prime.
Braves probably aren't going to buy their way into extending it so maybe the money doesn't matter so much.
I'd consider it at that price, but seems low.
Hudson2
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There will be a ton of competition for Crochet and i’m guessing AA would extend him pretty quick.
Coming off a hip surgery, he surely won't get top dollar. But that's probably a good bit too low. But I also don't think he gets more than a 2 year deal wherever he goes.
Strike3urout
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When was the last time the Braves handed out a big FA contract? BJ Upton 12 years ago? And that was a modest 5/75, even for that time.
Point being: The Braves have never been big players in the FA market. And I don't see them starting now, with all the uncertainty surrounding the roster and a decent but not a huge amount of $ available. I think more likely is a series of 2nd-tier acquisitions to strengthen depth and maybe get a decent bat for LF. I think a trade for a JP Crawford type (who had a down year, but is projected by ZIPs for a fairly consistent 3 WAR for the next few years) is the best we can hope for at SS. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Arcia get another year as starter (disappointed yes, but not surprised).
Point being: The Braves have never been big players in the FA market. And I don't see them starting now, with all the uncertainty surrounding the roster and a decent but not a huge amount of $ available. I think more likely is a series of 2nd-tier acquisitions to strengthen depth and maybe get a decent bat for LF. I think a trade for a JP Crawford type (who had a down year, but is projected by ZIPs for a fairly consistent 3 WAR for the next few years) is the best we can hope for at SS. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Arcia get another year as starter (disappointed yes, but not surprised).
Not that it proves your theory wrong, but we signed Ozuna to 4/65 when he was a FA, with a 16 million option that we will be picking up. So it will end up being 5/80.
We've also been plenty involved in the FA market. We were pretty close to signing Freddie before moving on and trading for Olson. We reportedly made a competitive offer to Nola last year. We also made an offer to Bae before he went to the Cubs, though reportedly it wasn't anywhere near what he eventually got.
The point is, we aren't afraid to be players for the guys we want. Though we haven't come in with the top bid, it isn't like we had no interest in signing them to a large contract. That being said, I doubt we do 6/150 for Adames when we weren't willing to go anywhere near that for Bae.
Strike3urout
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Of course the Braves have extended players that would otherwise have hit free agency. Maybe it's semantics, but I was talking about signing new players. And Ozuna originally signed for 1 year only, and then got the extension when he put up an MVP-caliber season in 2020.
Still, even your examples show that the Braves have not been willing to get into a bidding war and overpay for a player, even a beloved franchise icon. Will they go after Adames if his price tag is reasonable? Sure. But how likely is that for the top guy in an underwhelming SS class?