Offseason Hot Stove 2024-25 Thread

You trade albies after the season. It's an odd year, so he will be good...

2021: 3.7 fWAR

2022: 1.1

2023: 4.1

2024: 1.3
 
NYCBrave said:
I should have provided his entire commentary on this (there wasnt much more):

There would also be reason to debate moving Ozzie Albies, the three-time All-Star second baseman whose contract includes a $7 million salary for 2025 and $7 million options for 2026 and ’27. That’s a good value if he remains healthy enough to bid for another 30-homer season. He’s also a strong clubhouse presence. But his arm strength has weakened his defensive value and to get a strong return you sometimes must part ways with something significant.
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And it creates a glaring hole at 2b in the process.

If Ozzie and his "declining defense" isn't valuable enough for us to keep around at dirt cheap prices, how exactly is he going to have a huge amount of value to someone else? And what we would even trade him for? A team that has an elite arm (Crochett) or a very good SS (Masyn Winn) really has no need for a guy like Ozzie. I suppose a 3 way trade would work in that scenario, but again, it opens up another hole.

Trading a 2-3 WAR (or better) 2b who is making peanuts certainly doesn't seem to be a strong solution to fixing what few holes we have.
 
Carp said:
And it creates a glaring hole at 2b in the process.

If Ozzie and his "declining defense" isn't valuable enough for us to keep around at dirt cheap prices, how exactly is he going to have a huge amount of value to someone else? And what we would even trade him for? A team that has an elite arm (Crochett) or a very good SS (Masyn Winn) really has no need for a guy like Ozzie. I suppose a 3 way trade would work in that scenario, but again, it opens up another hole.

Trading a 2-3 WAR (or better) 2b who is making peanuts certainly doesn't seem to be a strong solution to fixing what few holes we have.
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I agree with you, I don't think it makes sense either considering we have nobody ready to plug the hole Albies would leave. It was a bit surprising to see Bowman even mention it.
 
Carp said:
2 years and 29 million isn't a big deal on the surface, but that still seems like a lot for a guy who has barely thrown 120 innings over the last 3 years. And most of that work came in 2023 when he was terrible.
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Yeah I’m not a huge fan of the amount… I just liked him as an interesting rebound candidate
 
NYCBrave said:
I agree with you, I don't think it makes sense either considering we have nobody ready to plug the hole Albies would leave. It was a bit surprising to see Bowman even mention it.
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I would trade Albie's and Acuna of they have a good year. Neither is a good long term investment anymore and we would get a boatload of prospects of they are coming off good years. Acuna might be washed up by 30.
 
I love Acuna but his knees are pretty scary going forward. He may need to be the full time DH when Ozuna leaves.
 
And not playing the field takes away a large chunk of his value. I don't want to sign up for a Trout situation and I don't want to see him leave for a draft pick. I feel like it's an inevitability the Mets sign him to a mega contract that will turn out very bad for them.
 
cajunrevenge said:
And not playing the field takes away a large chunk of his value. I don't want to sign up for a Trout situation and I don't want to see him leave for a draft pick. I feel like it's an inevitability the Mets sign him to a mega contract that will turn out very bad for them.
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This is gonna be a big year for him. If his knees start acting up then he becomes a full time DH in 2026
 
cajunrevenge said:
And not playing the field takes away a large chunk of his value. I don't want to sign up for a Trout situation and I don't want to see him leave for a draft pick. I feel like it's an inevitability the Mets sign him to a mega contract that will turn out very bad for them.
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This is gonna be a big year for him. If his knees start acting up then he becomes a full time DH in 2026
 
I know Buehler and Evoldi are probably the top FA targets for us with Morton as a backup plan but I think AA is really after Crochet here. Hopefully he can come out of the WM with a LF or SP.
 
Hudson2 said:
I know Buehler and Evoldi are probably the top FA targets for us with Morton as a backup plan but I think AA is really after Crochet here. Hopefully he can come out of the WM with a LF or SP.
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I have a sneaky suspicion they go hard after him as well, but I think he'll go to whomever loses out on Fried and Burnes.
 
UNCBlue012 said:
I have a sneaky suspicion they go hard after him as well, but I think he'll go to whomever loses out on Fried and Burnes.
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AA usually moves quick so he’s not gonna want to wait on them to sign bc he knows it will be harder to get him. I just think he’s trying to do something without Baldwin in it. Crochet is to perfect for us. Lefty, TOR starter, replaces Fried easily and wants to sign long term.
 
Hudson2 said:
I know Buehler and Evoldi are probably the top FA targets for us with Morton as a backup plan but I think AA is really after Crochet here. Hopefully he can come out of the WM with a LF or SP.
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I agree that a Crochet trade/extension is the move most in line with AA's typical strategy for acquiring impact players from outside the organization. I just hope it doesn't require Baldwin.
 
I really doubt AA would trade Baldwin given Murphy's injury history. If that were an option I doubt he would have parted ways with TDA. Because if we trade Baldwin, we don't have an MLB caliber backup catcher. And signing basically any back-up catcher in FA is gonna cost a minimum of about 2-3 million, so we aren't really saving much money by not picking up TDAs option.
 
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