2025 Trade Deadline Thread

AA is going to play it safe and roll with the same team next year sans Ozuna... maybe a slight upgrade at SS and another middle of the road starter... won't be surprised at all if twit comes back to get that 50 years of leaching under his fat gut..

hope no one really wanted Tucker/Cease/Bo or anyone who might actually be a risk. AA would pee his panties having to bid against the big dogs.
 
jpx7 said:
I don’t think that’s inconsistent with what most of us have been saying, which is that Murphy won’t be moved unless a team grows desperate enough to bowl the Braves over with an offer that seriously upgrades the 2026 roster outlook.
Click to expand...
no team is fooled by Murphy's hot streaks to move anything significant for him. if the Brave's could get Wynn for Meth straight up, it should be done already.. I just don't think the Cards would do that. With ABS coming soon and base stealing almost guaranteed, slightly above avg hitting catchers are going to become run of the mill.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
no team is fooled by Murphy's hot streaks to move anything significant for him. if the Brave's could get Wynn for Meth straight up, it should be done already.. I just don't think the Cards would do that. With ABS coming soon and base stealing almost guaranteed, slightly above avg hitting catchers are going to become run of the mill.
Click to expand...
I’m going to go out on a pretty sturdy limb and say I don’t think you have a great grasp of catcher value in MLB.
 
jpx7 said:
I’m going to go out on a pretty sturdy limb and say I don’t think you have a great grasp of catcher value in MLB.
Click to expand...
well when framing becomes useless and holding baserunners is basically up to pitch type and pitchers ability to move quick to the plate, then no, I don't see a lot of value in defense for the catching position. I guess blocking is still going to be a thing..
 
bravesfanMatt said:
well when framing becomes useless and holding baserunners is basically up to pitch type and pitchers ability to move quick to the plate, then no, I don't see a lot of value in defense for the catching position. I guess blocking is still going to be a thing..
Click to expand...
As bad as the bulk of catchers tend to be offensively, I don’t think ABS suddenly will mean “slightly above avg hitting catchers are going to become run of the mill.” Plus, I think smart teams will quickly find a new kind of post-ABS framing skillset that will become important/sought-after. And holding runners will still be a thing.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
I would bet a good sum of money that ABS challenge system will be in place next year, if not most certainly in the new CBA.
Click to expand...
Remember that the ABS system is challenge based. Teams are not going to risk losing their challenge on really close calls, especially early in the game.

My point is it will likely change only the most obvious misses.

Often, players are outraged by perceived missed calls that were actually good calls right on the corner. After they lose a few of those challenges and don’t have a challenge left for a real miss, they will become more careful about using them unless they are sure.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
no team is fooled by Murphy's hot streaks to move anything significant for him. if the Brave's could get Wynn for Meth straight up, it should be done already.. I just don't think the Cards would do that. With ABS coming soon and base stealing almost guaranteed, slightly above avg hitting catchers are going to become run of the mill.
Click to expand...
You really are doom and gloom non stop. You don't get Murphy's value. If you gave most teams the option between having Murphy or Winn I bet most teams would choose Murphy.
 
Hudson2 said:
You really are doom and gloom non stop. You don't get Murphy's value. If you gave most teams the option between having Murphy or Winn I bet most teams would choose Murphy.
Click to expand...
This wasn’t doom. Just talking about a cheap young player at a position that is far more desirable. Yes Murphy is a better hitter. But when you factor cost of contract and length of control..Wynn closes the gap. Plus Wynn is not guaranteed. That holds value in itself.
 
MadduxFanII said:
I don't know who those people are, but...cool.
Click to expand...
From MLB.com:

Scouting grades: Fastball: 60 | Cutter: 60 | Control: 50 | Overall: 40

Pena has been a reliever in the Padres system ever since signing for $10,000 out of the Dominican Republic in January 2022, 10 days before his 21st birthday. After one season in the Dominican Summer League, he’s been on a fast track toward San Diego, having played for all five stateside affiliates between 2023 and ’24. In his most recent campaign, he finished with a 2.43 ERA and 64 strikeouts over 63 innings across the top three levels of the Minors. Like many Padres pitching prospects, his numbers jumped at hitter-friendly El Paso but not enough to be overly concerning.

Pena cuts a thin figure at 6-foot-1, setting up out of the stretch from the first-base side of the rubber. But he generated over 7 feet of extension at Triple-A, putting himself close to the plate with dynamic stuff. He throws a pair of fastballs, both in the 95-98 mph range -- a sinker with more than 12 inches of armside run and a straighter four-seamer. He leaned on the former more at Triple-A, which makes sense given his other offering. Pena’s 89-92 mph cutter was his most-used pitch with El Paso, comes in like a hard fastball only to nip a bit gloveside late. Batters whiffed on it 35.2 percent of the time at Triple-A and 36.2 percent across all levels in 2024, highlighting how consistently good it is at missing bats.

Walks have never been an issue for Pena in the Minors, and that can be surprising for a pure relief prospect. The sinker helps him run a heavy ground-ball rate too. The lack of a changeup may make him a questionable fit against lefties at the top level, but the cutter has served him well enough so far as he heads toward a potential MLB debut in 2025.
Click to expand...
Scouting grades: Fastball: 50 | Slider: 55 | Changeup: 45 | Control: 50 | Overall: 40

Bergert underwent Tommy John surgery that wiped out his junior year at West Virginia in 2021, but that didn’t scare the Padres away from taking him in the sixth round and signing him for double-slot value at $500,000. After shaky results at High-A upon his return, the right-hander broke out in 2024 with a 2.73 ERA with 126 strikeouts in 105 2/3 innings at Fort Wayne and Double-A San Antonio. He returned to the Texas League for 2024 with rougher numbers (4.78 ERA, 87 strikeouts in 98 innings) and spent the autumn making five starts in the Arizona Fall League. San Diego added him to the 40-man roster in November when he would have become Rule 5-eligible.

Bergert lowered his arm slot from his days as a Mountaineer, allowing his fastball to play better up in the zone with some ride and run. His fastball touches 96 but typically sits closer to average velo at 91-94, and if he misses his spot at the top rail, it can be crushable. The 6-foot-1 hurler’s standout offerings are his pair of sliders – an 81-83 mph sweeper that can exceed 2,900 rpm and a tighter, mid-80s breaker. His mid-80s changeup got some chase but lacks the separation to be a weapon against lefties, who had an .830 OPS against Bergert in the Texas League last year.

He improved his walk rate by a healthy amount in '24, and that still gives him some upside as a potential backend starter. Now entering his age-25 season, Bergert has the comfort of a 40-man spot but will have to fight past many other options to get a look in San Diego’s rotation. It could be worth seeing how the fastball-slider combo works in shorter spurts soon.
Click to expand...
Seems like a couple solid relief prospects to hopefully replace the guys the Braves are about to trade off.
 
jpx7 said:
Fangraphs actually threw a 45 FV on Bergert, and gives Peña a 40 FV (like MLB.com). If that’s the return for Ozuna, I think we should be thrilled—and the team should not stop there, and keep trading.
Click to expand...
Agreed. I'd see if we could sweeten the pot with a reliever or 2.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top