nsacpi
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If you feel safer in your gated community more power to you. Its a big country with a lot of variety. Allows everyone to find their place.
Some Red State/Blue State Indicia
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nsacpi
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60 years ago New York and Oklahoma had the same life expectancy. The change since doest have much if anything to do with those ethnic differences.
msstate7
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Can't find Asian population in NY by decade; but just since 2010, Asian population is up from 8.2% in 2010 to 10.6% in 2020. I would think (maybe incorrectly) that this number has been rising for a while.
Wealth equals health in most scenarios
chop2chip
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I’ll be the first to rag on these shit holes, but I visited San Francisco a couple months ago for work (after 10 years of living there). It’s noticeable how much it’s improved. My friends who still live there say the same.
Mayor Daniel Lurie has been a titanic sized upgrade over London Breed . Chesa Boudin should also be criminally charged for how disastrous a job he did as the DA of San Francisco. It turns out being tougher on crime reduces crime. Who would have thought?
Mayor Daniel Lurie has been a titanic sized upgrade over London Breed . Chesa Boudin should also be criminally charged for how disastrous a job he did as the DA of San Francisco. It turns out being tougher on crime reduces crime. Who would have thought?
nsacpi
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If you disaggregate the data you will find that life expectancy in NY has risen relative to Oklahoma for whites, blacks and every other ethnic group. Changes in population mix (such as more Asians in NY than 60 years ago) can account for only a tiny part of the divergence.
nsacpi
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60 years ago NY and Oklahoma were neck and neck in life expectancy. NY was much richer then too. The divergence since has other explanations.
chop2chip
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Oklahomans smoke too much, eat too much and work jobs (oil and farming) that don’t pay as much as finance.
New Yorkers need to stop setting each other on fire on public transit.
I have no doubt Oklahoma politicians could be doing a better job (they have a couple guys who sure do love to thump a Bible on camera).
Interesting enough, I never hear New York politicians voice concern that their citizens will leave them for Oklahoma, but they sure do bring up Florida migration quite a bit. I wonder why that is.
New Yorkers need to stop setting each other on fire on public transit.
I have no doubt Oklahoma politicians could be doing a better job (they have a couple guys who sure do love to thump a Bible on camera).
Interesting enough, I never hear New York politicians voice concern that their citizens will leave them for Oklahoma, but they sure do bring up Florida migration quite a bit. I wonder why that is.
nsacpi
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y'all never have problems with those data when they fit your preconceptions
nsacpi
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You're a Leave Me Alone Guy. Oklahoma leaves people alone. Those are the results. NY has robust efforts to suppress thangs like smoking.
Oddly enough there have been big advances in health in that time that often times are reserved for people with money. Mostly day to day activity which are wildly expensive
nsacpi
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Having good political choices makes a big difference. California was better governed when it alternated Republican and Democratic governors. That's why I hope to see the Republicans return to running and nominating serious people in states like Calfironia.
chop2chip
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I’m sure Kathy Hochul doesn’t pay Oklahoma too much mind. There’s not much there that would appeal to New Yorkers. She does seem to be concerned with why so many have already left for Florida and what will happen once they elect Hamas as the new mayor
People who should be most concerned are the New Jersey Democrats.
sturg33
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What made Larry Elder unsetious relative to Katie Porter?
When you see an exodus from places that have data that says these places are a great place to live then you have to question what is going on.
Basic common sense that you so-called intellects don't have.
sturg33
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It's unfathomable that a paradise like California could ever lose enough residents to lower their congressional caucus, but dammit Dems made it happen
nsacpi
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There is an interesting study that looks at the counties clustered around where NY, PA and OH meet. Ohio takes a Leave Me Alone approach to smoking. NY takes a very pro-active anti-smoking approach. PA is in between. Decades ago incidence of lung cancer was the same in those counties. Now there are big differences. Public health policy matters. Yugely. Other policies on things like education matter. Yugely.
I'm not saying that blue states are perfect. Hochul should be trying to make sure that young talented people want to come, stay and contribute to the economy of her state (i'm not sure she can do much about the folks who have made it and now want to retire somewhere warmer and cheaper). But 7 years extra of life is a yuge thang. It more than offsets a lot of thangs blue states dont get right. And it is worth paying some taxes for.
Just like Oklahoma can't do anything about the fact that NY was setup as the financial center of the world 100 years ago and therefore people with money live there an that they can afford preventive daily care that Oklahomans can't.