REAL FOOTBALL Thread
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Heyward
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Dez and DT are pretty close, i can see it either way with them.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
Thomas is faster but I think Dez is more well-rounded.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
no Dez?
In the group with Marshall, Jeffery, dJax, etc. might be 5th best overall.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
You are crazy if you thhink DJax and Dez are on the same level. You cannot watch them play and think they are similarly impact WRs over the least 2-3 years.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
I'd have him in with DT/Green/Julio, but we all have opinions.
I mean he's good. I just don't rank him in the top 5.
Last 2 years he has basically same number of targets and receptions as Thomas, yet inferior yards. The advanced metrics are fAr lower on him Than where I rank him(possibly 5).
NinersSBChamps
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br> 2015 (Co-Winner)</BR>20
Etc includes Garçon for sure.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
In Dez's defense, he's the go to guy on his team unlike Thomas who has others to draw coverage heat be it Decker, Welker or Thomas the larger. And of course the QB factor comes into play. I do agree that Thomas is seemingly criminally underrated by most here. Especially if people think Crabapples is close to him.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
Thomas is right outside that top 5 of CJ, Dez, Green, Jones, and Marshall for me. There are a lot of guys in the conversation. But Desean Jackson is not one of them. He is not in those guys' class.
You realize that your go to site had Crabtree as the sixth best receiver in 2012 right?
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
You realize I don't usually use DYAR when judging WRs right? I consider it with a number of things, but primarily base it off watching people play. Crabtree is a fine possession receiver, but that's about it. His route running is weak for a 1, his speed is pedestrian, and he doesn't even seem to own his skillset as he seems to try to still play like he did in college when he was faster than most people he faced.
Route running is weak? Incredible that you would say that. Just proves to me that you haven't watched him play much at all.
I agree that his speed isn't anything to write home about but he has excellent agility/acceleration to where he is a very good RAC guy.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
You really have to take stats/rankings like that with a grain of salt when looking at WRs. There are a lot of guys that put up 1000+ yards and some TDs but that doesn't mean they are all created equal. No one could watch Desean for 16 games and Dez for 16 games and say Desean was the better receiver. I don't know 1 Eagles fan that would have said that (before letting him go).
I agree. YOu have to watch them over a long period of time and for someone to say that Crabtrees route running is weak proves to me they haven't watched him much at all. Again, its more people who just look at last year and use his injury season against him. Thats fine, we will learn more about him this year.