REAL FOOTBALL Thread

thethe said:
If your definition of a solid pick is a starter then you don't know what you're talking about. You can be a bad player and still start for a team like the Titans.
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The point is, you are acting like it was some great draft. You got 1 impact player from that draft. Stop pretending like it was some awesome draft for the 49ers, when in fact it was very, very average.

Not counting Mettenberger (who is starting out of necessity) the Titans got 5 quality starters from the 2013 and 2104 draft. 2 other players are starters, but only because of injuries. But you don't see me throwing around how amazing the Titans have been @ drafting the last 2 yrs.
 
So Bills-Jets moved to Monday. I am guessing the Carrier Dome for the new location. Any ideas what the TV schedule is for this?
 
Carp said:
The point is, you are acting like it was some great draft. You got 1 impact player from that draft. Stop pretending like it was some awesome draft for the 49ers, when in fact it was very, very average.

Not counting Mettenberger (who is starting out of necessity) the Titans got 5 quality starters from the 2013 and 2104 draft. 2 other players are starters, but only because of injuries. But you don't see me throwing around how amazing the Titans have been @ drafting the last 2 yrs.
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What draft class for the 49ers are you talking about? If it was this past draft there are two very good mid round picks the 49ers have.
 
Carp said:
The point is, you are acting like it was some great draft. You got 1 impact player from that draft. Stop pretending like it was some awesome draft for the 49ers, when in fact it was very, very average.

Not counting Mettenberger (who is starting out of necessity) the Titans got 5 quality starters from the 2013 and 2104 draft. 2 other players are starters, but only because of injuries. But you don't see me throwing around how amazing the Titans have been @ drafting the last 2 yrs.
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And if the 49ers had the roster that hte Titans had they would have gotten around 3-4 starters just from the 2013 draft. Lets not even go after the 2014 draft which has had amazing returns thus far.
 
zitothebrave said:
Falcons have edge rush issues, but Aldon and Ware couldn't be as effective in a 4-3 system. Falcons need a hybrid someone fast like them but big enough to be effective vs the run.
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Ware is being effective right now in a 4-3 scheme while he's not even at his prime, lol Zeets. 8 or 9 sacks i think so far. And Ware is going to Canton, stop it.

Aldon is a ****ing beast, on the field he's one of the few players you have to be aware of at all times. He's a game-wrecker as coaches call other players.
 
zitothebrave said:
Patrick Peterson is overrated. He's a athletic freak but he's not technically sound.
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LOL PP is one of the top 2-3 CB's in the game.

He was playing hurt early this year, locked up Dez a few weeks ago (yes i know Weeden was QB)

And held Calvin in check last week, Peterson is a freaking stud.
 
Heyward said:
LOL PP is one of the top 2-3 CB's in the game.

He was playing hurt early this year, locked up Dez a few weeks ago (yes i know Weeden was QB)

And held Calvin in check last week, Peterson is a freaking stud.
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PP is overrated and Ware isn't a HOFer.
Zito'd.
 
Heyward said:
Ware is being effective right now in a 4-3 scheme while he's not even at his prime, lol Zeets. 8 or 9 sacks i think so far. And Ware is going to Canton, stop it.

Aldon is a ****ing beast, on the field he's one of the few players you have to be aware of at all times. He's a game-wrecker as coaches call other players.
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There were instances last week where Aldon literally got triple teamed. It was crazy for his first game back to be triple teamed. If anyone doesn't understand how great Aldon is at this point is just not watching.
 
SF's 2012 draft was bad but every GM had bad drafts.

Seattle's draft from 2013 isnt looking very good right now.

2013 and 2014 look very good.
 
yeezus said:
PP is overrated and Ware isn't a HOFer.
Zito'd.
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Peterson does get burned a little bit more than some of the others but he's still a beast.

He's also always on islands, and doesnt have much safety help (hello Sherman)

Ware is a lock for the HOF, idk what Zito was thinking there or ever.
 
thethe said:
There were instances last week where Aldon literally got triple teamed. It was crazy for his first game back to be triple teamed. If anyone doesn't understand how great Aldon is at this point is just not watching.
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I saw the pic of that on twitter lol, just his presence on the field makes everyone better.

He may be an idiot, a talented idiot but on the field he's a beast, cant argue the production.
 
Heyward said:
LOL PP is one of the top 2-3 CB's in the game.

He was playing hurt early this year, locked up Dez a few weeks ago (yes i know Weeden was QB)

And held Calvin in check last week, Peterson is a freaking stud.
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Sherman, Revis, Grimes

There's 3 right there.
 
Heyward said:
Peterson does get burned a little bit more than some of the others but he's still a beast.

He's also always on islands, and doesnt have much safety help (hello Sherman)

Ware is a lock for the HOF, idk what Zito was thinking there or ever.
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Demarcus Ware has more sacks then Julius Peppers, does that mean he should be in HOF over Julius Peppers? Let's look at all of the numbers

Ware's advantage is he has 2 years of age on Peppers so I'll say that first. Looking at simple stats.

Ware has 126 sacks, 2 INTs 34 FF, 7 FR 3 TDs, 465 tackles, 138 assisted

Peppers has 124 sacks, 11 INTs 42 FF, 17 FR 4 TDs 462 tackles 138 assisted.

IS it fair to compare him to peppers? Yes. Because in a given generation short of amazing players, what are the odds of 3 defensive ends getting in? Not amazing. Jared Allen and Terrell Suggs are similar aged compatriots and both have been better than Ware. If you blend guys like Aldon Smith, JPP, and JJ Watt into the same generation it looks worse.

He could be a HOF he could stick around and keep performing, but anyone who thinks he's a lock either doesn't know how hard it is to get into the PFHOF or is massively overrating Ware.
 
Heyward said:
I mean its not really crazy to say he's not.
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I could list more too. Peterson is overrated. He's flashy and athletic, but he's not better than say Aqib Talib when Talib is on the field. Haden, Jennings, and I could list others too. Peterson is all sizzle no steak.
 
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