2016 Draft Position

This is a laughable thread. There have been discussions online and TV as well about how thin the June draft is going to be in terms of impact players and besides it could be 3 or 4 yrs down the road before it bears any fruit. This is not the NFL.
 
This is a laughable thread. There have been discussions online and TV as well about how thin the June draft is going to be in terms of impact players and besides it could be 3 or 4 yrs down the road before it bears any fruit. This is not the NFL.

Guess we should tank next year as well, so we can have the #1 overall pick in a deeper 2017 draft.
 
This is a laughable thread. There have been discussions online and TV as well about how thin the June draft is going to be in terms of impact players and besides it could be 3 or 4 yrs down the road before it bears any fruit. This is not the NFL.

I'm still surprised we didn't finish .500 or better like you assured us
 
This is a laughable thread. There have been discussions online and TV as well about how thin the June draft is going to be in terms of impact players and besides it could be 3 or 4 yrs down the road before it bears any fruit. This is not the NFL.

The consensus about 2016 being a thin draft has started to change. Most drafts seem thin a year out... the talent is starting to look better and better.
 
This is a laughable thread. There have been discussions online and TV as well about how thin the June draft is going to be in terms of impact players and besides it could be 3 or 4 yrs down the road before it bears any fruit. This is not the NFL.

The attitude that 75 wins is better than dead last for this team is what is laughable. This is, was and will continue to be for the short term a bad team. And, while a competitive team that falls just short of a pennant and/or WS can be edifying on a limited basis, it is not why you play the game. You play the game to win pennants and bring home WS trophies. But, even being competitive was never really in the cards for this team once the FO finally and rightfully decided that the team was badly constructed and on a path to complete uncontrolled meltdown. At least in doing what they did, they were able to control to a point the crash.

This isn't soccer mom league where everybody is a winner and everybody gets a trophy and no one should feel bad about the fact that they suck and therefore no one should feel incentivized to be better. This is Professional baseball, baseball where players get paid to perform and success or failure is based upon the ability of the team to entertain the public out of their hard earned cash.

The draft is one mechanism in place to help teams rise from the bottom. It can be debated as to how effective that is but at least most agree that teams with good FO management and a willing to spend and better position in the draft do well over the long haul. No, it isn't the NFL draft. But, MLB isn't the NFL either.

To ignore a major aspect of talent acquisition (assuming you have people in place to maximize the effectiveness of position by picking well) in pursuit of some ill fated win every game you can because that's what competitors do strategy is insane. The rules are what they are. If MLB wanted max effort out of all teams all the time, they wouldn't establish the rules in such a way as to encourage otherwise.

The rules today are in place in such a way so that every means of acquiring new talent outside of FA signings (monetarily expensive) and trades (monetarily expensive AND talent expensive) favors the teams with the worst records.

I think of it like this: The team is sick. It can take a shot that will hurt short term but will be most effective to cure the illness OR it could choose to take a long course of pills that are much less effective and might eventually lead back to the necessity of the shot anyway. Assuming you have a good doctor that knows what he's doing the choice is easy.
 
This is a laughable thread. There have been discussions online and TV as well about how thin the June draft is going to be in terms of impact players and besides it could be 3 or 4 yrs down the road before it bears any fruit. This is not the NFL.

Of course, depth doesn't much matter when you have the number two pick (yes, I know it matters in the other rounds).
 
This is a laughable thread. There have been discussions online and TV as well about how thin the June draft is going to be in terms of impact players and besides it could be 3 or 4 yrs down the road before it bears any fruit. This is not the NFL.

Making it that much more important that you have one of those high picks and a shot at GETTING one of those impact players, no???

Your choice to read the thread - I doubt rather seriously that you've been threatened with banishment in the event you don't follow it, so why *itch about it?
 
This is really my favorite argument. it could be 3 to 4 years before they even make it...

I guess a kid shouldn't get an education.. it will be 3 or 4 years before they finish.. just start working now.
why save for retirement.. it will be 20 years before you can use it.. just spend it now...

if you can't plan for the future while working for today then you have no future.
 
BA has maintained all along that the 2016 draft looks to be stronger than the 2015 version.

I've already linked it somewhere in this thread, but Kiley McDaniel says that scouts are telling him that there are potentially 7-8 elite prospects in this draft. I'm not sure where some are getting the idea that this isn't a good draft. The top high school arms and bats in this draft are better than the ones from the 2015 draft.
 
Its way too early to judge the draft class one way or the other. Stocks of young players can be a roller coaster ride. Matt Harvey for example was the favorite to be the #1 overall pick after his Junior year in High School. Injury issues and mediocre performance in his senior year and he is drafted 118th. He goes to college and is good but not great. Has a big breakout in the Cape Cod his senior year and he goes 7th overall in the draft.
 
The Reds and Rockies both beat us more. We did win out over Milwaukee though. We only have 8 games left so we need all 3 to win 3 or so more games. I just hope the Cards don't rest their players and they can sweep us to end the year.
 
The Reds and Rockies both beat us more. We did win out over Milwaukee though. We only have 8 games left so we need all 3 to win 3 or so more games. I just hope the Cards don't rest their players and they can sweep us to end the year.

Still can't make myself pull for us to lose every night, but a 1-7 finish would serve two purposes...

1.) Spare us a 100-loss season, and...

2.) Keep us from catching the team we'd lose a tiebreaker to.
 
The Reds and Rockies both beat us more. We did win out over Milwaukee though. We only have 8 games left so we need all 3 to win 3 or so more games. I just hope the Cards don't rest their players and they can sweep us to end the year.

The tie breaker is the previous years record. Whoever was lower getc the tie breaker.
 
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