2016 Presidential Primaries [ SUPER TUESDAY | 3-1-'16]
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Both wrong. Rubio. Sounds like Santorum maybe VP candidate
That Video says a lot about his character.
Please expound
bravesnumberone
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That would just about be the dumbest thing Rubio could ever do.
bravesnumberone
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Cruz says Trump is throwing a Trumpertantrum over the Iowa results. Lol.
Not to defend The Don, but what Cruz did was a really really dirty move.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
So early returns from Iowa haven't hurt Trump, 2 polls came out and he's +17 and +24
Harper's poll has Cruz taking a big know as he's behind (in their poll and w/in margin of error FWIW) Rubio, Kasich and Bush.
One poll for NH since Iowa has Sanders wrecking Clinton, 61-32. Have to see how more come out, but thte trend is Hillary may be wise to send Bill to South Carolina to lock that down. She'll need to beat Sanders almost as bad as Sanders beats her in NH.
And the "scary" thing is that Sanders trends younger voters who're often poorly represented in polls.
Harper's poll has Cruz taking a big know as he's behind (in their poll and w/in margin of error FWIW) Rubio, Kasich and Bush.
One poll for NH since Iowa has Sanders wrecking Clinton, 61-32. Have to see how more come out, but thte trend is Hillary may be wise to send Bill to South Carolina to lock that down. She'll need to beat Sanders almost as bad as Sanders beats her in NH.
And the "scary" thing is that Sanders trends younger voters who're often poorly represented in polls.
goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
Bernies ready to deliver a speech to his supporters. he stands back and let's two women take the microphone and hijack his speech for 20 plus minutes. Makes him look like a pussy. Leaders need to convey strength. There was no strength in that.
cajunrevenge
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Cruz should name Jesus his VP.
57Brave
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I am going to give props to Chris Christie.
He gave Marco the mantle of "boy in the bubble"
"I'm tired of being divided against each other for political reasons like this president's done," Rubio said at a Wednesday campaign stop in Dover, New Hampshire. "Always pitting people against each other. Always! Look at today: He gave a speech at a mosque. Oh, you know, basically implying that America is discriminating against Muslims."
Rubio added: "Of course there's discrimination in America, of every kind. But the bigger issue is radical Islam. And by the way, radical Islam poses a threat to Muslims themselves. They argue that. They'll tell you that. But again, it's this constant pitting people against each other. I can't stand that. It's hurting our country badly."
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Conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt, no friend of Obama, called the president's speech "superb."
He gave Marco the mantle of "boy in the bubble"
"I'm tired of being divided against each other for political reasons like this president's done," Rubio said at a Wednesday campaign stop in Dover, New Hampshire. "Always pitting people against each other. Always! Look at today: He gave a speech at a mosque. Oh, you know, basically implying that America is discriminating against Muslims."
Rubio added: "Of course there's discrimination in America, of every kind. But the bigger issue is radical Islam. And by the way, radical Islam poses a threat to Muslims themselves. They argue that. They'll tell you that. But again, it's this constant pitting people against each other. I can't stand that. It's hurting our country badly."
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Conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt, no friend of Obama, called the president's speech "superb."
It still boggles my mind that Rubio is somehow seen as the "moderate" of Cruz and Trump, when he was the Son of the Tea Party.
Being slightly less crazy than Cruz still makes you insane.
Being slightly less crazy than Cruz still makes you insane.
57Brave
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how they say "politics ain't beanbag"
this is an old Texas trick outlined by Robert Caro in one of the volumes of LBJ bios. This was one of the tamer tactics
sturg33
I
Cruz is a full blown neocon... tea party? lol
57Brave
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what is even more mind boggling is his being annointed the winner in Iowa.
He was
predicted to finish third
finished third- with roughly the predicted %
proclaimed winner
by the same media outlets that predicted he would come in third
wow
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third is the new first ?
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
My one-and-a-half cents.
1. Rubio is the big winner on the Republican side in Iowa because he looks to be firming up his position as the establishment alternative to Trump and Cruz. Impressive late surge.
2. Trump's campaign is truly led by idiots. Iowa is the home of retail politics and delegates/caucus attendees need to be coddled and met personally. That doesn't happen at big rallies. Trump led among first-time caucus attendees, but if he would have had any ground game to follow up on those attending his rallies and making sure they went to their caucuses, he likely would have won. His reaction after the results is typical Trump and his handlers (if he can be handled) have is bass ackwards. Trump should be saying "Cruz had the big hitters and visited every country and he still only beat me by three points."
3. Curious to see how Cruz fares from this point forward. It's been shown success in Iowa doesn't necessarily translate to anything else, but he absolutely had to win in Iowa and his ground game and his support from King and Vander Plaats were key in that. Still, he didn't reach 30%. Huckabee was well over 30% in 2008 (Fred Thompson actually beat McCain in Iowa in 2008 as a reference point). Carson still being in the race clearly detracted from Cruz, but Perry and Gingrich being in the race in 2012 put a dent into Santorum. Puzzler to me is the evaporation of the libertarian wing in Iowa, as Ron Paul got 21% in 2012. Maybe Trump is reaping that demographic, which is a bit of a puzzler.
1. Rubio is the big winner on the Republican side in Iowa because he looks to be firming up his position as the establishment alternative to Trump and Cruz. Impressive late surge.
2. Trump's campaign is truly led by idiots. Iowa is the home of retail politics and delegates/caucus attendees need to be coddled and met personally. That doesn't happen at big rallies. Trump led among first-time caucus attendees, but if he would have had any ground game to follow up on those attending his rallies and making sure they went to their caucuses, he likely would have won. His reaction after the results is typical Trump and his handlers (if he can be handled) have is bass ackwards. Trump should be saying "Cruz had the big hitters and visited every country and he still only beat me by three points."
3. Curious to see how Cruz fares from this point forward. It's been shown success in Iowa doesn't necessarily translate to anything else, but he absolutely had to win in Iowa and his ground game and his support from King and Vander Plaats were key in that. Still, he didn't reach 30%. Huckabee was well over 30% in 2008 (Fred Thompson actually beat McCain in Iowa in 2008 as a reference point). Carson still being in the race clearly detracted from Cruz, but Perry and Gingrich being in the race in 2012 put a dent into Santorum. Puzzler to me is the evaporation of the libertarian wing in Iowa, as Ron Paul got 21% in 2012. Maybe Trump is reaping that demographic, which is a bit of a puzzler.