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The Indians are still looking for outfield help, I'd talk with them about a deal involving Nick Markakis and we can throw in Boni for free. This would clear room for other outfield options too.
 
Braves1976 said:
The Indians are still looking for outfield help, I'd talk with them about a deal involving Nick Markakis and we can throw in Boni for free. This would clear room for other outfield options too.
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It would seem that outfield is an area we will be trading from. Especially with Mallex Smith on the horizon. I agree with what you said a while back about the "Kansas City" model of having two center fielder quality outfielders. Would be nice to have both Smith and Inciarte out there.

I think we'll make this deal next off-season: outfielder for catcher. A trade of major league players.
 
nsacpi said:
The underlying assumption is that Swisher isn't even in the running for that last spot and that Garcia and Bourn are shoo-ins. Bowman's been writing all spring that Swisher is a gonner. I'm not so sure.
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How'd you get there? My assumption was that Bourn was out if they're looking for a righty to spell Inciarte. I think Swisher is the one they keep because he also plays first, and Freddie's wrist is troublesome.
 
nsacpi said:
Sometimes these decisions get deferred by a mysterious late spring training injury.

Sometimes managerial sentiment comes into play. My reading is the players Fredi "likes" are Beckham, Bourn and Francoeur. Those are the guys he seems to talk up. Jace is in that group too. The guys he seems to "like less" are Garcia, Bonifacio and Swisher.
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The three he likes less have been getting plenty of at bats.
 
nsacpi said:
With respect to starting pitching it now looks like four spots are spoken for: Teheran, Wisler, Norris and Chacin. Fifth spot is between Banuelos, Baby Harang, Folty and Gant. Probably in that order of chances though it is very close between the first two.
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Give me Banuelos or give me death.
 
Is this true (from mlbtraderumors Braves offseason writeup)?

"There’s some room for critique here, as Atlanta could have pursued more compelling rotation pieces if it’s serious about putting a solid product on the field in 2016. After all, the organization’s current projected Opening Day payroll projects to land south of $75MM for the first time in the 21st century."
 
Orphan Black said:
Is this true (from mlbtraderumors Braves offseason writeup)?

"There’s some room for critique here, as Atlanta could have pursued more compelling rotation pieces if it’s serious about putting a solid product on the field in 2016. After all, the organization’s current projected Opening Day payroll projects to land south of $75MM for the first time in the 21st century."
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With all of the money we've taken on and offloaded over the past year it's hard to say what our payroll obligations actually are. We might be fielding guys owed $75 million but be paying more than that. Also, we're going to go into the international market big time this year so I'd be surprised if we didn't shift some money from our payroll this year to that.
 
striker42 said:
With all of the money we've taken on and offloaded over the past year it's hard to say what our payroll obligations actually are. We might be fielding guys owed $75 million but be paying more than that. Also, we're going to go into the international market big time this year so I'd be surprised if we didn't shift some money from our payroll this year to that.
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I also think we're gearing up to spend a lot of money by either taken salary on through trades and/or free agency in 2017/2018. Don't waste the money now.
 
Orphan Black said:
Is this true (from mlbtraderumors Braves offseason writeup)?

"There’s some room for critique here, as Atlanta could have pursued more compelling rotation pieces if it’s serious about putting a solid product on the field in 2016. After all, the organization’s current projected Opening Day payroll projects to land south of $75MM for the first time in the 21st century."
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Here's what I have on $. I factor in prorated signing bonuses and budget for players hitting half of their known performance incentives.

Position Name Proj. Salary
SP1 Julio Teheran $3,466,667
SP2 Bud Norris $2,500,000
SP3 Matt Wisler $525,000
SP4 Jhoulys Chacin $950,000
RP1 Carlos Torres $1,500,000
RP2 Dan Winkler $525,000
RP3 Alexi Ogando $525,000
RP4 Alex Torres $550,000
RP5 Jose Ramirez $525,000
RP6 Jim Johnson $2,500,000
RP7 Arodys Vizcaino $897,500
RP8 Jason Grilli $3,500,000
C1 Tyler Flowers $2,750,000
C2 A. J. Pierzynski $3,500,000
3B Adonis Garcia $525,000
SS Erick Aybar $8,500,000
2B Jace Peterson $525,000
1B Freddie Freeman $12,359,375
UIF1 Kelly Johnson $2,625,000
UIF2 Gordon Beckham $1,500,000
LF Hector Olivera $4,000,000
CF Ender Inciarte $550,000
RF Nick Markakis $11,000,000
UOF1 Michael Bourn $14,000,000
UOF2 Emilio Bonifacio $1,750,000

MLB DL Paco Rodriguez $550,000
MLB DL Shae Simmons $525,000
MLB DL Jesse Biddle $525,000
MLB DL Andrew McKirahan $525,000
MLB DL Mike Foltynewicz $525,000
MLB DL Manny Banuelos $525,000
40-man Dian Toscano $1,300,000
40-man Chris Withrow $610,000
[DFA] Nick Swisher $15,000,000

Approx $ from CLE -$15,000,000
$ from LAA (Aybar) -$2,500,000
$ to DET (Maybin) $2,500,000
$86,633,542
 
I could see someone giving us $1-2m salaray relief for Bourn.

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This is interesting . . .

Lucroy thought he was almost traded a month ago, too. The Brewers were engaged in talks involving the Atlanta Braves and Houston Astros in a three-way deal that failed to materialize. The Brewers have attached an exorbitant price tag on Lucroy’s value, and who can blame them? Lucroy, an All-Star catcher in 2014, is being paid just $4.25 million this year with a $5.25 million option in 2017. Yet, until someone is willing to meet their demands, he remains a Brewer.
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...rewers-jonathan-lucroy-trade-rumors/82156896/
 
smootness said:
It is indeed. I wonder if we would have been getting Lucroy or if Houston would have. My guess is that Houston would have gotten Lucroy, we would have given a couple pieces to both Milwaukee and Houston, and that we would have gotten a young guy or two from Houston.
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Three ways can be exciting.. you just don't know who is getting what though.. and a lot times one party is just left unsatisfied..
 
striker42 said:
With all of the money we've taken on and offloaded over the past year it's hard to say what our payroll obligations actually are. We might be fielding guys owed $75 million but be paying more than that. Also, we're going to go into the international market big time this year so I'd be surprised if we didn't shift some money from our payroll this year to that.
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$2.5 million for Maybin to play for Detroit is one example.
 
smootness said:
It is indeed. I wonder if we would have been getting Lucroy or if Houston would have. My guess is that Houston would have gotten Lucroy, we would have given a couple pieces to both Milwaukee and Houston, and that we would have gotten a young guy or two from Houston.
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A part of me wonders if it might've been something along of the lines of:

Astros get Lucroy

Brewers get Inciarte and an arm (the MLBTR piece about the deal mentions Ender might've been in it)

Braves get Daz Cameron and Domingo Santana

The Brewers would've then kept Khris Davis to pair with Inciarte and Braun.
 
clvclv said:
A part of me wonders if it might've been something along of the lines of:

Astros get Lucroy

Brewers get Inciarte and an arm (the MLBTR piece about the deal mentions Ender might've been in it)

Braves get Daz Cameron and Domingo Santana

The Brewers would've then kept Khris Davis to pair with Inciarte and Braun.
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no interest in that for the Braves, for me.
 
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