Reports: Two Dallas Police Officers Shot During Protests

Who has ingrained it in your head since birth that you are not beautiful and need a weave? How has ingrained in your head that your natural hair and looks are ugly by white standards?
 
gilesfan said:
I can handle educated and reasonable discussion. I cannot handle the rhetoric. That entire post was just an extremist opinion post with zero support for anything. White males provoke and SEDUCE black males into committing crimes.............
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Nope i dont agree with everything. I was just being too lazy to edit some stuff out. I think people who commit crime are evil and at fault themselves. But i do believe that white supremecy in america plays a big role in keeping minority groups down. Guns, drugs, prisons is big business for politicians and white supremecy.
 
njc108 said:
But that would be ignoring the truth. Its been ingrained since birth. Have you ever seen the Barbie doll studies? Black is not beautiful. Why do you think there are many black women walking around with weave? Our natural hair and looks are considered ugly by white standards. I could go on but im just so tired.
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What does this have to do with what I said? Do you think white people have better hair than black people? I don't. That's a subjective opinion. Obviously in any society things will tend to line up more with the majority. That is a real disadvantage of being a minority in any society, and we should fight it where we can.

I'm not saying we'll ever be a color blind society. That is unrealistic and truthfully, impossible. But we can avoid creating artificial divisions where they don't exist and aren't necessary.

I've listened to your opinion. I find some of it legitimate and thoughtful and a lot of it absurd.
 
njc108 said:
Nope i dont agree with everything. I was just being too lazy to edit some stuff out. I think people who commit crime are evil and at fault themselves. But i do believe that white supremecy in america plays a big role in keeping minority groups down. Guns, drugs, prisons is big business for politicians and white supremecy.
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Can you explain your view on drugs and prisons being big business for white supremacy?
 
bravesnumberone said:
I like to try to look at every situation independently, but it should be very clear there's a disturbing pattern here.

Everything is really going to ****. Whether it's a person who's either completely deranged and/or irrationally motivated by hate, fear, racism, any other factor(s), whether it's a racist prick cop or a woefully, inadequately trained one, the result is often violence and loss of lives that simply should not and did not have to happen. Then those of us who aren't involved are left, and too many of us rush to cling to one thing to advance their own agenda or deflect attention from their own pet issue, and we fail to talk to each other as people and recognize that there are often multiple factors at play.

Guns and violence are never the answer. I'd like to believe we can grow as a people, but I don't see how at this point.
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It's not ever going to happen. The country is more divided than ever. We are on the verge of all out civil war if things don't change and in a hurry too.
 
gilesfan said:
Can you explain your view on drugs and prisons being big business for white supremacy?
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Most prison wardens are white? Minorities makeup a large percentage of inmates?

White people are baiting minorities into crimes so they can put them in a prison in order to make profits?
 
gilesfan said:
Who has ingrained it in your head since birth that you are not beautiful and need a weave? How has ingrained in your head that your natural hair and looks are ugly by white standards?
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White america and media. Why do you think black magazines, tv networks, businesses etc were created. Why do you think blacks have to put on shows such as Black Girls rock. I grew up in an all white community where when i wore my hair naturally curly i was told by my white girlfriends that my hair was funny. I went home crying that day and for most of my time living in that community amongst white i gave up my identity to conform. Looking back I freaking regret that so much. They only reason we lived in that community was because of the school system but my cop mom fought each day to show me black is beautiful even if my white school mates dont see it.

Listen gilesfan we are of two different viewpoints and its cool. I just think that more violence is going to spring up because the pain is all too real. Even typing this message tears have formed thinking back to old times when i couldn't attend a girlfriends bday party or enter anothers house. Hell this was the 90s.
 
The media is a major issue in all of this, but let's remember how liberal the media is as a whole. I absolutely agree they are a huge factor in the wedge that is being placed in America.
 
njc108 said:
White america and media. Why do you think black magazines, tv networks, businesses etc were created. Why do you think blacks have to put on shows such as Black Girls rock. I grew up in an all white community where when i wore my hair naturally curly i was told by my white girlfriends that my hair was funny. I went home crying that day and for most of my time living in that community amongst white i gave up my identity to conform. Looking back I freaking regret that so much. They only reason we lived in that community was because of the school system but my cop mom fought each day to show me black is beautiful even if my white school mates dont see it.

Listen gilesfan we are of two different viewpoints and its cool. I just think that more violence is going to spring up because the pain is all too real. Even typing this message tears have formed thinking back to old times when i couldn't attend a girlfriends bday party or enter anothers house. Hell this was the 90s.
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Kids are cruel and they often point out when other people are different. I don't see that as a tie to white supremacy.

A lot of what you describe is a reality in any society with multiple races. There will always be a majority and a minority, and it follows logically that more people will be like the majority than the minority.

But that doesn't mean these realities show some kind of ulterior plot on the part of the majority.
 
Smootness no its not just kids being kids. As a teen my gf told me her father was racist. That is why I could never enter her house or why she wouldnt even think of dating a black guy. To this day I love that friend because she kept it real with me. See I rather know who is racist so I can avoid you. Those are just a few small examples. I can discuss all the times I was racially profiled at stores, clubs, or driving in my familys BMW and Benz.

I dont think you want to hear all of the problems I have faced being black in america. White Supremacy is real. To deny it is to ignore the truth. Why do you think many blacks are fearful to have sons or must have "the" talk with their children. I had that talk with my mon at an early age. We live amongst whites but dont ever trust. To many you are just a N!gger. (Proof my friends nasty father).
 
njc108 said:
Smootness no its not just kids being kids. As a teen my gf told me her father was racist. That is why I could never enter her house or why she wouldnt even think of dating a black guy. To this day I love that friend because she kept it real with me. See I rather know who is racist so I can avoid you. Those are just a few small examples. I can discuss all the times I was racially profiled at stores, clubs, or driving in my familys BMW and Benz.

I dont think you want to hear all of the problems I have faced being black in america. White Supremacy is real. To deny it is to ignore the truth. Why do you think many blacks are fearful to have sons or must have "the" talk with their children. I had that talk with my mon at an early age. We live amongst whites but dont ever trust. To many you are just a N!gger. (Proof my friends nasty father).
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Racism is real, no doubt. There are unfortunately racists among us, and that sucks. I don't know what it feels like to be black, but I honestly do try to listen and be open and understand the different experiences.

But if every generation is taught not to trust another race, then what is the result? It means that divide is never, ever eliminated or even lessened. When do we begin to truly judge a person by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin?

There are two possibilities: 1) Many cops are racist, and as a result, blacks are unjustly arrested, killed, etc. often for no other reason than they are black. Ok, so if this is true, what is the solution? Ok, we call it out as a problem and say that the cops are racist. When does the problem get solved? There are still racist cops running around with unchecked power.

Or 2) Hardly any cops are racist or racially motivated in any way, but the police force as a whole has become too quick to escalate situations and resort to violence, and people of all races are being killed too often by police officers, who then often avoid punishment because they are in power. If this is true, what is the solution?

My argument is that the solution to both is the same: force police forces into transparency and accountability, investigate these incidents and prosecute them to the fullest extent when necessary. It solves either problem. But simply repeating over and over again that cops are racist doesn't solve the first problem, doesn't solve the second problem, and generally just escalates tension and anger on every side.
 
Let these animals just destroy themselves. Don't have law enforcement intervene. That's a solution.
 
njc108 said:
Smootness no its not just kids being kids. As a teen my gf told me her father was racist. That is why I could never enter her house or why she wouldnt even think of dating a black guy. To this day I love that friend because she kept it real with me. See I rather know who is racist so I can avoid you. Those are just a few small examples. I can discuss all the times I was racially profiled at stores, clubs, or driving in my familys BMW and Benz.

I dont think you want to hear all of the problems I have faced being black in america. White Supremacy is real. To deny it is to ignore the truth. Why do you think many blacks are fearful to have sons or must have "the" talk with their children. I had that talk with my mon at an early age. We live amongst whites but dont ever trust. To many you are just a N!gger. (Proof my friends nasty father).
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That isnt proof of anything but an isolated case of racism and an earlier case of kids acting like kids

A lot of us have had bad experiences with cops.

A lot of us have faced racism: growing up in a predominatey black school system, I certainly did.

But I dont claim its bc of the illuminati either.

Certain White people have privilege, its a fact of life and will never change. I know that Im not beating out the son of a wealthy family for a job opportunity. I know that I cant win bids from jewish clients bc they pick other jewish people.
 
Individual racism certainly exists, but just yelling white supremacy over and over does nothing. If you say the system is inherently racist then you need to show policies, rules, guidelines that are racist in their intent.
 
CrimsonCowboy said:
So the Dallas police officers, who were actually there protecting the protesters right to protest, deserved this even though they had nothing to do with the other situations? That is twisted logic.
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Who were the officers protecting them from? Certainly not this guy because he was only after the police. Reality is those cops were there to keep them in line. It's real easy to ignore protests. It's not easy to ignore this. Police have gone into buisness for themselves. They actively fight positive reform and their unions spend money to lobby for the failed policies that turned communities into war zones. It's not about law enforcement anymore. It's about generating revenue. They are nothing more than a street gang with a badge. I am sure there are a good number of good cops. Just like there were good Nazis, good confederate soldiers, and good redcoats.

I view this as a revolutionary act. Police have been waging a war on people for a long time and hopefully this is just the start of people fighting back. It's their war on drugs that turned inner cities into war zones. You can blame black people all you want but the same **** happened when they tried to ban alcohol. Violence spiked. And what led to change? Killing police officers. If they want to be safe doing their jobs then they need to ask Congress to legislate the end of this war on people.

Your all hypocrites. The nation was founded by using violence against those enforcing unjust laws. Even George Washington advocated for mob violence. Under current law I do not own my body. I support mob violence against those who wish to deny my ownership of my body. If they don't want to die then maybe don't sign up to be a storm trooper on the death star.

Edit - and I want to point out I think the Trayvon shooting was justified.
 
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