The Trump Presidency

zitothebrave said:
http://www.newsweek.com/2017/03/10/...&utm_campaign=most_read&utm_medium=most_read1
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That just reinforces to me why we need the ban. Anyone that would consider joining groups like ISIS because their feelings are hurt need to be kept out. I prefer we call it "religious terrorism" instead of "radical Islamic terrorism" because it is the same thing. We have a long storied history of Christian terrorism in this country that is just as big of threat. Personally I am a lot more worried about the terrorism from al-police department than I am from al-qaeda. There are roughly 1.6 billion muslims in the world and over half believe in forcing sharia law on everyone, beating their various wives, that women are property of men, and that if a woman shows her ankles its okay to rape her. Forgive me if I dont want to let those kinds of people into the country regardless of what religion they practice. Over half think I should be killed for being atheist. Lets bring them here and give them the right to vote, that should work out swimmingly. There are so many Islamic paradises for them to live in and they feel they have the right to come here. I am all for giving them a free ride to Saudi Arabia or any other Sharia law hell hole they prefer. Even if they are not terrorists they will raise their kids to be Muslim and they are one viewing of an Extremist Iman online away from being terrorists. If its their contention that pissing off Muslims could or will lead to Muslims already here killing people then they make my point for me. They shouldnt be let in if they are an insult away from killing people. Atheists have been **** on by the government and people in general but you dont hear about us potentially killing people because we feel insulted. I was raised Catholic, when bad **** happened they always said "Its Gods plan" or "Pray to God for help", it didnt work for me so I said **** this ****. Maybe these muslims should pray to Allah for help instead of asking us for help. Maybe they should have more faith in their God that they love so much. If Sharia law is his will then why are they trying to leave it? Its their paradise. I guarantee you if we help them by bringing them here they will praise Allah for helping them instead of anyone here. If their God wanted them to leave he would help them. Apparently he doesnt yet they still have blind faith in him. We might not have a big problem now but if we mass import Muslims there will eventually be a huge problem like Sweden has. How many rapes and murders are acceptable for bringing these people here? I have met plenty of good people from Muslim countries but the one thing they all have in common is I have no idea if they are Muslim or any other religion. If religion is an important part of their lives then stay the hell out. We have enough problems with Christians trying to force their versions of Sharia law on people.
 
The President, still wearing his bathrobe after what was reportedly a sleepless night, personally supervised the tin-foil installation, sources said.

“Wrap it tighter,” he was heard bellowing at Conway.
 
Krgrecw said:
I hope you realize that's a joke
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Julio3000 said:
Because it's still classified.

Which is a exactly what the declassified report says. You're playing kind of a disingenuous game here.

If you want to dispute to conclusions in the report w/r/t motive, feel free. They're much more subjective and involve interpretation and speculation. Disagree away.

If you don't trust the voluminous reporting that Russia was responsible, going all the way back to the FBI proactively contacting the DNC at the VERY beginning, concerned that their system was under attack--specifically by a specific group of Russian state actors--I don't know what to tell you.

As to what everyone is concerned about? I think it's safest and most prudent to understand what's already happened before speculating what else we might have to be concerned about.

But if you think it's nbd for an adversarial foreign power to have taken criminal actions to attempt to manipulate the outcome of our election, possibly with the collusion of personnel from one of the election campaigns, I'm not really sure what to say.
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So to recap:

1. No evidence

2. We're still not sure what to be concerned about

3. Ahh... someone interfered with our election? That's an act of war! Please ignore that we do the exactly same ****ing thing, highlighted by the presidential candidate the left wanted to win!
 
Runnin said:
The fact that Obama (or any intelligence agency) resorted to that tells you all you need to know about the Russia connection being real or not.
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no doubt

if it was cause of a FISA warrant, thank God for the patriot of Obama
 
cajunrevenge said:
That just reinforces to me why we need the ban. Anyone that would consider joining groups like ISIS because their feelings are hurt need to be kept out. I prefer we call it "religious terrorism" instead of "radical Islamic terrorism" because it is the same thing. We have a long storied history of Christian terrorism in this country that is just as big of threat. Personally I am a lot more worried about the terrorism from al-police department than I am from al-qaeda. There are roughly 1.6 billion muslims in the world and over half believe in forcing sharia law on everyone, beating their various wives, that women are property of men, and that if a woman shows her ankles its okay to rape her. Forgive me if I dont want to let those kinds of people into the country regardless of what religion they practice. Over half think I should be killed for being atheist. Lets bring them here and give them the right to vote, that should work out swimmingly. There are so many Islamic paradises for them to live in and they feel they have the right to come here. I am all for giving them a free ride to Saudi Arabia or any other Sharia law hell hole they prefer. Even if they are not terrorists they will raise their kids to be Muslim and they are one viewing of an Extremist Iman online away from being terrorists. If its their contention that pissing off Muslims could or will lead to Muslims already here killing people then they make my point for me. They shouldnt be let in if they are an insult away from killing people. Atheists have been **** on by the government and people in general but you dont hear about us potentially killing people because we feel insulted. I was raised Catholic, when bad **** happened they always said "Its Gods plan" or "Pray to God for help", it didnt work for me so I said **** this ****. Maybe these muslims should pray to Allah for help instead of asking us for help. Maybe they should have more faith in their God that they love so much. If Sharia law is his will then why are they trying to leave it? Its their paradise. I guarantee you if we help them by bringing them here they will praise Allah for helping them instead of anyone here. If their God wanted them to leave he would help them. Apparently he doesnt yet they still have blind faith in him. We might not have a big problem now but if we mass import Muslims there will eventually be a huge problem like Sweden has. How many rapes and murders are acceptable for bringing these people here? I have met plenty of good people from Muslim countries but the one thing they all have in common is I have no idea if they are Muslim or any other religion. If religion is an important part of their lives then stay the hell out. We have enough problems with Christians trying to force their versions of Sharia law on people.
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If we continue to turn a blind eye to Islam then we will be in the same spot as Europe and England. I hope that the left wisens up here.
 
thethe said:
What's the scandal? What do you feel is happening?
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I have no evidence or stories to link to but I thought anyone with an average IQ and not wearing rose colored glasses could see what likely happened, if it happened. Here's my "alternative truth" version of it.

Trump has ties with Russia because of past business deals. (nothing wrong with that)

He decides to run for president and actually starts moving forward when most thought it was a joke.

He becomes the Republican nominee and he or his associates are approached by someone from Russia who tells him that they have hacked Hillary's email server (nothing special, just normal everyday stuff for Russia) and found damaging information in her emails. (I don't fault Russia for the hacking, every powerful nation does it. I'm sure the US has a big team of hackers looking at Russia all the time) The Russians offer to leak the emails to help win the election in exchange for looking favorably towards Russia should Trump win.

Trump's buddy Rex thinks it's a great idea and tells Trump how much money they can make off oil or whatever by being pro Russia.

No one can understand why Trump absolutely will not say a negative thing about Putin, all the while continuously berating great Americans and even his fellow republicans. It's almost like Russia is holding something over his head. It might not be blackmail, he might be willingly doing it because it will benefit himself.

Trump's team denied anything involving Russia, saying they never met. It come out that they have, in fact, met so they have been caught lying about it.

All I can say for sure is where there's smoke, there's usually fire. Fox News spouts off on much more ridiculous conspiracy theories all the time and their supported believe every word of it.

If there's evidence, and the people holding it are smart and intend to use it against the President of the United States, they better be sure they cross every t and dot every i, because if it is true, it's going to cause a "uge" ****storm if they try to act on it. You think the protests by the left are bad now, what until they try to bring down the right wing nutjobs's God Emperor.
 
Most troubling is those that voted for someone with so little understanding of the office and governing 300M .

We all saw the same debates and heard the same speeches.

Kind of like contracting a car mechanic to be your dentist
 
Chipper said:
I have no evidence or stories to link to but I thought anyone with an average IQ and not wearing rose colored glasses could see what likely happened, if it happened. Here's my "alternative truth" version of it.
Trump has ties with Russia because of past business deals. (nothing wrong with that)
He decides to run for president and actually starts moving forward when most thought it was a joke.
He becomes the Republican nominee and he or his associates are approached by someone from Russia who tells him that they have hacked Hillary's email server (nothing special, just normal everyday stuff for Russia) and found damaging information in her emails. (I don't fault Russia for the hacking, every powerful nation does it. I'm sure the US has a big team of hackers looking at Russia all the time) The Russians offer to leak the emails to help win the election in exchange for looking favorably towards Russia should Trump win.
Trump's buddy Rex thinks it's a great idea and tells Trump how much money they can make off oil or whatever by being pro Russia.
No one can understand why Trump absolutely will not say a negative thing about Putin, all the while continuously berating great Americans and even his fellow republicans. It's almost like Russia is holding something over his head. It might not be blackmail, he might be willingly doing it because it will benefit himself.
Trump's team denied anything involving Russia, saying they never met. It come out that they have, in fact, met so they have been caught lying about it.

All I can say for sure is where there's smoke, there's usually fire. Fox News spouts off on much more ridiculous conspiracy theories all the time and their supported believe every word of it.

If there's evidence, and the people holding it are smart and intend to use it against the President of the United States, they better be sure they cross every t and dot every i, because if it is true, it's going to cause a "uge" ****storm if they try to act on it. You think the protests by the left are bad now, what until they try to bring down the right wing nutjobs's God Emperor.
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Quite the stretch and assumptions without any real evidence.

I hope everything is brought out and fully disclosed. I would also like to know the circumstances surrounding why Trump Tower was bugged.
 
Tom Friedman: 'They must be clinking vodka glasses right now in Moscow. For less than the cost of a MiG-21 they've thrown the West into complete disarray.'
 
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